Kal-El814 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 55 minutes ago, Ghost_MH said: Yeah, but the board and shareholders need their massive profits. I looked up the Market Basket thing. What really caused the drama was indeed over cutting board members a $250m check, which the CEO was against. This isn't hard, but the rich ones at the top don't really care since they can line their pockets now and totally use that money for a fifth vacation home. Yup. I know this doesn't mean anything to anyone who's not in the parts of MA where Market Baskets exist but... imagine having an ownership stake in Market Basket and fucking with literally any part of it? There are a billion grocery stores around here, and other than speciality markets like H-Mart, Market Basket is the only one where every aisle is staffed with a scanner and a bagger at all times because the volume demands it. It's the most affordable chain and the amount of stuff they move through those stores is unbelievable. It's like having a goose that lays golden eggs and deciding to choke it out so a couple eggs come out a day but you might kill it. These people are so fucking stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 17 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: Yup. I know this doesn't mean anything to anyone who's not in the parts of MA where Market Baskets exist but... imagine having an ownership stake in Market Basket and fucking with literally any part of it? There are a billion grocery stores around here, and other than speciality markets like H-Mart, Market Basket is the only one where every aisle is staffed with a scanner and a bagger at all times because the volume demands it. It's the most affordable chain and the amount of stuff they move through those stores is unbelievable. It's like having a goose that lays golden eggs and deciding to choke it out so a couple eggs come out a day but you might kill it. These people are so fucking stupid. It does mean nothing to anyone outside of this post of the country, but it's still endemic of what's been happening for decades in all industries. These chucklefucks didn't at all care if they wound up killing the company. They wanted a massive bonus going to them instead of the employees and looked to fire the company's CEO to get someone in there that was willing to make it happen. In their eyes, worse case scenario is they sell the company off and get an additional acquisition bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin King Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 In the process of leaving my job, just hit my 5 years. Team and people are great, leadership at top and direction, not so much. Used to be great place to work, last 2 years have been grind. Job offer I just accepted pays $30k more. Knew I could make more, didn't think I could make that much more. The market is really hot. Even if you're unsure, do yourself a favor and take a look, just get the information. Heck even take it to your boss and say you don't want to leave, but I got an offer that is too big of a gap to say no to, help close the gap so I can say no and stay. Only do this if you are willing to leave incase they stonewall you, usually unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 7 hours ago, Gavin King said: Job offer I just accepted pays $30k more. Knew I could make more, didn't think I could make that much more. The market is really hot. Even if you're unsure, do yourself a favor and take a look, just get the information. QFT. I got a 10% increase from the job I held only 8 months which was in itself a 25% increase over my previous, plus a title bump. Go looking, just do it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 In March of last year I was making $65k. Employer bumped me to $70k. Another company offered me $95k in March of this year. So I took it. Wasn't even there three months when another employer offered me $115k. So in a little over a year my salary almost doubled for doing the same job (database programmer). 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 20 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: QFT. I got a 10% increase from the job I held only 8 months which was in itself a 25% increase over my previous, plus a title bump. Go looking, just do it! as I was writing this my boss emailed me to let me know someone from our team was leaving and I'd be finishing out the project she was working on. lmao 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 I make $80k in tech (in K12, some simple database and scripting stuff, plus administering some software for our payroll/HR systems, etc), and I know I could get a job making 50% more elsewhere...but I also really, really love my job, and the team that I work with. I also love working in a sector that is not profit-focused. My base pay increases by about 5% per year for 7 years for my position (then caps). Then it also increases each year by whatever amount the teacher's union negotiated. So the current contract is 0-2-2, and we're in the second year. So this year I effectively get a 7% raise. Theoretically after 7 years in this position (I'm in year 2) I will only get the teacher cost of living increases. But I will also be making >$100k in a low cost of living city, so pretty fortunate. Also the second main reason I love my team is that I get 100% retirement match up to 7.5% of gross pay (meaning 15% of gross pay invested monthly, on top of my own retirement investments). If I were 20 I might consider taking a contract web developer job or something and make some cash...but being 37 with a wife with chronic health issues and a mortgage to pay, that retirement match is very, very valuable. Plus as long as I'm not an idiot, my job is guaranteed. It's not like education as a sector is going away, or running the risk of failing as a business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin King Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 10 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: I make $80k in tech (in K12, some simple database and scripting stuff, plus administering some software for our payroll/HR systems, etc), and I know I could get a job making 50% more elsewhere...but I also really, really love my job, and the team that I work with. I also love working in a sector that is not profit-focused. My base pay increases by about 5% per year for 7 years for my position (then caps). Then it also increases each year by whatever amount the teacher's union negotiated. So the current contract is 0-2-2, and we're in the second year. So this year I effectively get a 7% raise. Theoretically after 7 years in this position (I'm in year 2) I will only get the teacher cost of living increases. But I will also be making >$100k in a low cost of living city, so pretty fortunate. Also the second main reason I love my team is that I get 100% retirement match up to 7.5% of gross pay (meaning 15% of gross pay invested monthly, on top of my own retirement investments). If I were 20 I might consider taking a contract web developer job or something and make some cash...but being 37 with a wife with chronic health issues and a mortgage to pay, that retirement match is very, very valuable. Plus as long as I'm not an idiot, my job is guaranteed. It's not like education as a sector is going away, or running the risk of failing as a business. Can't put a price on happiness. There's probably always a 'offer I can't refuse' level but honestly, if I was happy with my company/job now, I wouldn't leave for just a bump. I make good money, have good benefits, if the job wasn't stressful and didn't have me concerned for my mental health, I wouldn't probably have even been looking elsewhere. To hopefully get in a better place and more money is a win-win.... But I'd totally take a lateral financially if it was a better environment. Once you're into your career enough and doing well, it does become less about the money and more about what kind of work you do, stress level, your team, etc... Money is still nice, don't get me wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokra Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 I make $50k/year in Portland, with a master's in CS. Fuck all of you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 44 minutes ago, Nokra said: I make $50k/year in Portland, with a master's in CS. Fuck all of you. There are a ton of fed jobs you could get that pay more than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Oh and I guess I wound up one of those lucky few that got an internal promotion, about 8-10 months ago. Another ~25k and I know the feds are looking at picking me up here in the next couple years and that's what I really want. I also like the agency, company, and co-workers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 another 4.2 million quit last month. for the year that means about a quarter of the workforce has quit this past year. I'm guessing there's a few people with more than one jump but not that many. crazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 How do those numbers and unemployment numbers interact if at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 Is any of this Boomers finally retiring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 23 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: How do those numbers and unemployment numbers interact if at all? seems like it's the inverse of unemployment. more unemployment = fewer quits; less unemployment = more quits. adjust this graph to 2005 start for a comparison 15 minutes ago, SuperSpreader said: Is any of this Boomers finally retiring? over 65 employment is flat and 55+ still seems to be increasing. The number 65+ not in the labor force or disability looks to be up a bit (jump during the start of the pandemic) but doesn't look too far off the long term trend of people not in the labor force id imagine that if covid gets better with a job market like this you'd see more 55/65+ back in the workforce, to a point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 10 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: seems like it's the inverse of unemployment. more unemployment = fewer quits; less unemployment = more quits. adjust this graph to 2005 start for a comparison over 65 employment is flat and 55+ still seems to be increasing. The number 65+ not in the labor force or disability looks to be up a bit (jump during the start of the pandemic) but doesn't look too far off the long term trend of people not in the labor force id imagine that if covid gets better with a job market like this you'd see more 55/65+ back in the workforce, to a point Social security isn't cutting it for retirees, no one saw that coming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 My dad is 72 and re-entered the workforce during COVID. He was broke as fuck on social security. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Fizzzzle said: My dad is 72 and re-entered the workforce during COVID. He was broke as fuck on social security. My father in law reentered, my dad just retired but I don't see that lasting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 13, 2021 Author Share Posted December 13, 2021 8 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: YOU MEAN IT'S NOT BECAUSE OF ALL THAT FREE GOVERNMENT MONEY?!?!?!? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: YOU MEAN IT'S NOT BECAUSE OF ALL THAT FREE GOVERNMENT MONEY?!?!?!? So sorry, my confirmation bias penis doesn’t get hard for no reason, I’m afraid I’m sticking to the free money narrative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 lol this business in my city put up a job ad...and got destroyed for it so completely that they deleted all their social media accounts: 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 I just closed an obscene amount of work for my company this year, got a glowing review and then proceeded to get the shittiest bonus I've ever gotten without explanation today. Think it's time to investigate this whole Great Resignation business a little further over here! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, Bloodporne said: I just closed an obscene amount of work for my company this year, got a glowing review and then proceeded to get the shittiest bonus I've ever gotten without explanation today. Think it's time to investigate this whole Great Resignation business a little further over here! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Just now, mclumber1 said: It's pretty fucking close to this level of insult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 "Competitive wages" 🚩 🚩 🚩 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheLeon Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 I started to type out a big long rant about my job and that we are understaffed for idiotic reasons, but y’all don’t need that. For now I’m sticking around hoping that things will turn around (I keep hearing rumors that changes are finally coming), but if they don’t, I can take my newly acquired skills and shop them around town for a place that might give a shit about retaining good workers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 18 minutes ago, TheLeon said: I started to type out a big long rant about my job and that we are understaffed for idiotic reasons, but y’all don’t need that. For now I’m sticking around hoping that things will turn around (I keep hearing rumors that changes are finally coming), but if they don’t, I can take my newly acquired skills and shop them around town for a place that might give a shit about retaining good workers. Rumors mean that things are being discussed. When they are discussed they will be planned. After planning they will be implemented. Your rumors are at least a year out. Go look for a new employer now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Anathema- said: "Competitive wages" 🚩 🚩 🚩 Another red flag is when they list "provided uniform" as a benefit. It's the monetary equivalent of adding "etc" to a list of two things you can't think of a third for. Yeah, mother fucker you "provide a uniform". Duh, did you think I was going to go to a tailer to custom make a couple Wendys shirts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 On 11/15/2021 at 9:15 AM, GeneticBlueprint said: In March of last year I was making $65k. Employer bumped me to $70k. Another company offered me $95k in March of this year. So I took it. Wasn't even there three months when another employer offered me $115k. So in a little over a year my salary almost doubled for doing the same job (database programmer). I don't know why I missed this till now. Any chance are you interested in changing? I'm looking for a Data Engineer atm. On 11/16/2021 at 1:12 AM, Nokra said: I make $50k/year in Portland, with a master's in CS. Fuck all of you. Are you also looking for a change and what's your tech stack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 24 minutes ago, chakoo said: I don't know why I missed this till now. Any chance are you interested in changing? I'm looking for a Data Engineer atm. Are you also looking for a change and what's your tech stack? Flattered, but I'm not nearly as cool as you think I am :P I just program our DB to interact with outside systems, create automations, control access, etc. I'm not what I would call a data engineer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 8 hours ago, TheLeon said: I started to type out a big long rant about my job and that we are understaffed for idiotic reasons, but y’all don’t need that. For now I’m sticking around hoping that things will turn around (I keep hearing rumors that changes are finally coming), but if they don’t, I can take my newly acquired skills and shop them around town for a place that might give a shit about retaining good workers. Where do you live? Near a major metro? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeon Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, Anathema- said: Where do you live? Near a major metro? Cincinnati, so, kinda? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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