Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 'Great Resignation' gains steam as return-to-work plans take effect WWW.CNBC.COM In the wake of the Covid pandemic, a growing number of workers are rethinking what they want in a job and a lifestyle. Quote In what’s been dubbed the “Great Resignation,” a whopping 95% of workers are now considering changing jobs, and 92% are even willing to switch industries to find the right position, according to a recent report by jobs site Monster.com. Most say burnout and lack of growth opportunities are what is driving the shift, Monster found. “When we were in the throes of the pandemic, so many people buckled down, now what we’re seeing is a sign of confidence,” said Scott Blumsack, senior vice president of research and insights at Monster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokra Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Haven't read the article yet (olol) but to be fair, asking people on Monster if they're looking to change jobs is like asking people on Tinder if they're looking to hook up. 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 37 minutes ago, Nokra said: Haven't read the article yet (olol) but to be fair, asking people on Monster if they're looking to change jobs is like asking people on Tinder if they're looking to hook up. No, it’s just that literally every working adult in America hates their job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 There's no upwards mobility because boomers have blocked it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 9 hours ago, SuperSpreader said: There's no upwards mobility because boomers have blocked it. So what, they give up their jobs to make young people happy? I don't think there's a real solution to that problem right now. And im not saying you're wrong, but they aren't wrong for not wanting to retire either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 26 minutes ago, BloodyHell said: So what, they give up their jobs to make young people happy? I don't think there's a real solution to that problem right now. And im not saying you're wrong, but they aren't wrong for not wanting to retire either. They could stop blocking new housing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 17 minutes ago, Jason said: They could stop blocking new housing. It’s not just the boomers doing this. Well, maybe in LA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 As a person who has a boomer boss where I do his job though he gets paid twice my salary and bonus, yea move the fuck aside. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 I'm personally never stepping foot in another office or doing a traditonal 40 hour work week again. I was doing a hybrid thing during the pandemic but now I'm 100% remote and plan on keeping it that way 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 The pandemic should have been more of an inflection point than it’ll ultimately end up being. How much real estate, how much land is tied up in giving humans an unnecessary place to work for 40-60 hours a week? How many jobs were lost while the net worth of anyone with meaningful investment in the stock market or real estate increased, dramatically in many cases? How much unnecessary work was being done? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 It’s almost like with all the tax breaks we give businesses and rich people we should be drowning in desirable jobs as companies expand and grow. I cannot fathom why we’re not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CitizenVectron Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 The explanation is easy—someone who is 21 still has fun at work, even if the job is shitty, because they are generally surrounded by like-minded peers. Someone in their 40s is sick of working and the corporate environment, and is jaded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 13 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: The explanation is easy—someone who is 21 still has fun at work, even if the job is shitty, because they are generally surrounded by like-minded peers. Someone in their 40s is sick of working and the corporate environment, and is jaded. By 27, I was so jaded I could hardly function at work. I had to go get therapy just to give a fuck again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 12 minutes ago, Uaarkson said: By 27, I was so jaded I could hardly function at work. I had to go get therapy just to give a fuck again. I've seen this so often, and have made a conscious effort to take jobs at places with great work culture, and with great teams. So far it's worked out. I was recently head-hunted for a cool job, but I turned it down because the culture was different (offer was at a full-stack startup with sprint schedules, etc, compared to my current IT job in public education). I don't need to love my job, but I want to be able to at least tolerate it so that I can make money and enjoy the rest of my life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finaljedi Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: I've seen this so often, and have made a conscious effort to take jobs at places with great work culture, and with great teams. So far it's worked out. I was recently head-hunted for a cool job, but I turned it down because the culture was different (offer was at a full-stack startup with sprint schedules, etc, compared to my current IT job in public education). I don't need to love my job, but I want to be able to at least tolerate it so that I can make money and enjoy the rest of my life. I did 4 years at a large health insurance company. Every once in a while one of their recruiters will call me and I'll tell them my salary expectations for that position is a firm $125k and the job probably caps at around $70 to $85k. They tell me I'm being absurd, I tell them their company is awful and I'd rather work elsewhere for less, but that's the minimum I'll take if I'm going to hate where I work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 minute ago, finaljedi said: I did 4 years at a large health insurance company. Every once in a while one of their recruiters will call me and I'll tell them my salary expectations for that position is a firm $125k and the job probably caps at around $70 to $85k. They tell me I'm being absurd, I tell them their company is awful and I'd rather work elsewhere for less, but that's the minimum I'll take if I'm going to hate where I work. "I am not negotiating. I am telling you how much you could offer me before I couldn't say no." It's nice when you have this position because you both get to stick it to a shitty employer and don't have any pressure about trying to haggle. Take it it or leave it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 hour ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: 53 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: The explanation is easy—someone who is 21 still has fun at work, even if the job is shitty, because they are generally surrounded by like-minded peers. Someone in their 40s is sick of working and the corporate environment, and is jaded. Younger people want to socialize and network. Older people are already networked and get social interaction from family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Uaarkson said: By 27, I was so jaded I could hardly function at work. I had to go get therapy just to give a fuck again. I feel you. 35 and burnt out on work again. Am on disability at present. Probably will try to stay out for 6 months or so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 A big part of starting my own thing was not wanting to be in a traditional office setting and all the things that tend to come with. It would be really hard for me now to make that transition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Interesting to see so much voluntary unemployment after a decade of high involuntary unemployment. Although I wonder how the voluntarily unemployed can indefinitely maintain their cash flow to afford the basics without Biden bux. Makes one think if everyone simply knew how easy it was to work from home in ‘08, and the government had spent the stimulus purely on expanded unemployment benefits, the Great Recession wouldn’t have been a big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 We just had three important positions in my office quit within the last month. Two of them were here for about 5+ years to 10 years even. Two of those were because they got an offer with work-from-home options but slightly lower pay, the third is simply because he said working from home and coming back in here is like having a layer peeled back and seeing how insane the stress actually was all this time. I've had my personal 'what am I doing with my life?' moment in the winter and am planning on making a move myself within the next year. I really fucking hope that this shifts things at least a little bit because the American workplace is an absurd nightmare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 I'm trying to not care as much for my own sanity. If it's not my decision or something I don't have control over I try to just give them exactly what they asked for and won't try and negotiate doing something better anymore. The fights and arguments aren't worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said: Interesting to see so much voluntary unemployment after a decade of high involuntary unemployment. Although I wonder how the voluntarily unemployed can indefinitely maintain their cash flow to afford the basics without Biden bux. that’s why so many want to stop the Biden-bux, because they want to force people to need to make their morning latte and afternoon burgers. And they should do it for an unlivable wage, because they have to work at Burger King/McDonalds/Starbucks/etc. frankly, I’m glad to see the service class workers rise up and demand better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Thank god I’m a land surveyor and actually enjoy my work. I can work from home, the office, or out in my truck with 5G in the middle of a corn field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 12, 2021 Author Share Posted October 12, 2021 A record 4.3 million workers quit their jobs in August, led by food and retail industries WWW.CNBC.COM Job openings declined sharply in August while hiring also fell and the level of workers quitting their jobs hit the highest level since at least late 2000. Quote Workers left their jobs at a record pace in August, with bar and restaurant employees as well as retail staff quitting in droves, the Labor Department reported Tuesday. Quits hit a new series high going back to December 2000, as 4.3 million workers left their jobs. The quits rate rose to 2.9%, an increase of 242,000 from the previous month, which saw a rate of 2.7%, according to the department’s Job Openings and Labor Turnover Survey. The rate, which is measured against total employment, is the highest in a data series that goes back to December 2000 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Post-war America is failing, at last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 IMO I think businesses are trying to see how much the customer will put off with while running skeleton crews while complaining they can't hire anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 35 minutes ago, Air_Delivery said: IMO I think businesses are trying to see how much the customer will put off with while running skeleton crews while complaining they can't hire anyone. Capital strike! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 4 hours ago, Air_Delivery said: IMO I think businesses are trying to see how much the customer will put off with while running skeleton crews while complaining they can't hire anyone. This is exactly it. It's why the company I work for started offering $1000 bonuses for cooks instead of simply raising wages. Once you raise the wages, it's hard to go back down. They're hoping they can outlast everything until jobs become scarce again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Some anecdotes on why some people have left their jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 There are so many factors, but in the end people would likely go back to "shit" jobs like waiting in restaurants if they had certain things: Management that took their side vs disruptive customers, seemed to care about them Better pay Better stability/predictability in hours And while #2 and #3 might seem the most important, #1 is often the reason why people hate their job/want to leave. Feeling like you matter and are respected by management is a HUGE driving factor in how people behave in their jobs. Even though management courses always stress this (as it's well known that respect/value is usually the top-ranked thing that employees care about), most managers are just absolute morons and ignore it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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