Keyser_Soze Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Boiled hot dogs aren't bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: Boiled hot dogs aren't bad. I boil them in the microwave! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 51 minutes ago, ort said: Soups? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 15 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: Boiled hot dogs aren't bad. They aren't terrible, but they aren't good either. Diffusion is a thing to think about when cooking. The reason hotdog water exists is because when you boil the dogs some of the flavor leaves them and remains in the water. I'd prefer to keep as much flavor in the food as possible rather than throwing some down the drain. This is one of those things people don't think about when they get into sous vide. They think adding all this butter and wine to the steak will end up with a steak with those flavors, but instead you just send up with butter that tastes like steak and wine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 2 hours ago, MarSolo said: As the resident Italian here, and therefore, the only person with any culinary taste, grilling is fine for an outdoor scenario. The only thing that should EVER be… ugh… boiled in water… is pasta. Oh... I guess only being half doesn't count Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 56 minutes ago, ort said: Soups? If you're making soup from scratch, you'd do better to cook the meat separate from the soup. The soup broth, instead, should be flavored with veggies, off cuts and bones. Once that's done, add the meat and let them simmer for a bit, but never hot enough to boil. Even the stuff in cans tells you to never actually boil the soup. Soups can totally "burn". Cooking it too hot will mess with the taste and texture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 16 minutes ago, Ghost_MH said: They aren't terrible, but they aren't good either. Diffusion is a thing to think about when cooking. The reason hotdog water exists is because when you boil the dogs some of the flavor leaves them and remains in the water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 I always warm-up my hotdogs in the toaster over (they come pre-cooked). 5-6 minutes at 350 usually does the trick. And they taste MUCH better than boiled.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Cook hot dogs on the grill until they split open. Eat with no stupid toppings, just plain with a steamed/warm bun Or with onion, mustard, Cincinnati style chili, and a large mound of shredded sharp cheddar cheese. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 4 hours ago, MarSolo said: As the resident Italian here, and therefore, the only person with any culinary taste, grilling is fine for an outdoor scenario. The only thing that should EVER be… ugh… boiled in water… is pasta. @SaysWho? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted July 6, 2021 Author Share Posted July 6, 2021 5 hours ago, Jason said: @SaysWho? This has layers. Like a burger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 2 hours ago, SaysWho? said: This has layers. Like a burger. A boiled burger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 44 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: A boiled burger? You could totally boil a burger. Just remember the whole diffusion thing, so whatever you boil the burger in needs to be more flavorful than the burger patty, itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Ghost_MH said: You could totally boil a burger. Just remember the whole diffusion thing, so whatever you boil the burger in needs to be more flavorful than the burger patty, itself. A Wade style boiled burger though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: A Wade style boiled burger though? No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStar189 Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 Alright look, I need to vent somewhere about this. I was invited to 3 cookouts this weekend. All 3 served frozen fucking burger patties on gas grills. Fuck that. Blah! One flavorless binder filled meat patty after another! I'm all about fresh ground beef on my charcoal grill. It might take 20 minutes to get the charcoal burning in the chimney and the grill heating up, but it's worth it dammit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 11 hours ago, Ghost_MH said: This is one of those things people don't think about when they get into sous vide. They think adding all this butter and wine to the steak will end up with a steak with those flavors, but instead you just send up with butter that tastes like steak and wine. I don't put butter in w/steak when I sold vide it, but I do put it in with lobster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 I made fresh hand formed burgers on my charcoal grill this weekend. I feel yer pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 14 minutes ago, DarkStar189 said: Alright look, I need to vent somewhere about this. I was invited to 3 cookouts this weekend. All 3 served frozen fucking burger patties on gas grills. Fuck that. Blah! One flavorless binder filled meat patty after another! I'm all about fresh ground beef on my charcoal grill. It might take 20 minutes to get the charcoal burning in the chimney and the grill heating up, but it's worth it dammit. Taste the meat not the heat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 15 minutes ago, DarkStar189 said: Alright look, I need to vent somewhere about this. I was invited to 3 cookouts this weekend. All 3 served frozen fucking burger patties on gas grills. Fuck that. Blah! One flavorless binder filled meat patty after another! I'm all about fresh ground beef on my charcoal grill. It might take 20 minutes to get the charcoal burning in the chimney and the grill heating up, but it's worth it dammit. Happens everywhere I go. Just why even bother cooking it outside at that point? 10 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: I don't put butter in w/steak when I sold vide it, but I do put it in with lobster. I'll allow it. Lobster is perfectly fine boiled. You aren't losing that much through the shell. If it's in a sous vide I'm assuming this is frozen lobster tail or something like that, in which case, yeah, go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ghost_MH said: I'll allow it. Lobster is perfectly fine boiled. You aren't losing that much through the shell. If it's in a sous vide I'm assuming this is frozen lobster tail or something like that, in which case, yeah, go for it. If I'm making lobster rolls, I boil the claws for about 5 min, the tails for 1, then sous vid them for an hour or so in butter with some tarragon. Then I dress them up a little with mayo and celery before making the rolls. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 Burgers and dogs on a charcoal stand up grill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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