Is it a sin for a single man to masturbate?

[Keyser_Soze]

9 minutes ago, legend said:

 

While I wouldn't advocate for theism of any sort, I'm just trying to highlight that you should be clear about what your beliefs are and reflect on whether that makes sense. The God you are saying you believe in is a massive dick. Do you really think that would be case? There are plenty of people who believe in God, even some form of Christianity, and don't believe God is like that.

 

That is, if you believe in God, which is more likely to you: God is a massive dick; OR God exists, but ancient man slipped in some claims about God because it served their purpose and that are not actually true? You don't have to reject belief in God to conclude the latter.

 

This is similar to what I said on the first page about worshiping a god who cares about you. You hear "god fearing" all the time, but shouldn't we want to be "god loving" and loving that god for giving is a good life and letting us be happy in the things we do?

[Kal-El814]

Honestly if we're assuming the existence of a higher power, and assuming that higher power is responsible for all creation, and we know that 99.999999999999999999999999999% of all creation would kill us merely by being present in it... I don't think we can safely conclude said higher power would give us the means to feel pleasure and also intend for us to use it.

[stepee]

I just feel like God is probably too busy to honestly care wether best has a cute little cum cum or not.

[Biggie]

2 hours ago, stepee said:

I just feel like God is probably too busy to honestly care wether best has a cute little cum cum or not.

[Best]

6 hours ago, legend said:

 

While I wouldn't advocate for theism of any sort, I'm just trying to highlight that you should be clear about what your beliefs are and reflect on whether that makes sense. The God you are saying you believe in is a massive dick. Do you really think that would be case? There are plenty of people who believe in God, even some form of Christianity, and don't believe God is like that.

 

That is, if you believe in God, which is more likely to you: God is a massive dick; OR God exists, but ancient man slipped in some claims about God because it served their purpose and that are not actually true? You don't have to reject belief in God to conclude the latter.

 

No ancient man slipped in anything about masturbation in any scripture. As said many times in this thread, masturbation isn't mentioned in the Bible.

 

It's the porn that I would use or disgusting visualizations that I would use to climax. I feel porn to be evil and thinking about fucking some women without porn is evil imo, too. So it's sinning. It's a lack of self control and you must treat your body like a holy temple. In the Bible they talk about sex a lot but it's only with married couples. That's my belief and I'm sticking to it. It's not torture or God being a dick either to not masturbate. I don't view it that way at all. I could go on and on in what the Bible explains about how I interpret masturbation being a sin from the scriptures I've read. It's a personal choice. That's why I wanted to end this conversation earlier. There's nothing more to be said. 

 

5 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said:

 

This is similar to what I said on the first page about worshiping a god who cares about you. You hear "god fearing" all the time, but shouldn't we want to be "god loving" and loving that god for giving is a good life and letting us be happy in the things we do?

 

Masturbating to porn never made me happy. It made me feel guilty and sick tbh. There's a reason to that. 

 

3 hours ago, Kal-El814 said:

Honestly if we're assuming the existence of a higher power, and assuming that higher power is responsible for all creation, and we know that 99.999999999999999999999999999% of all creation would kill us merely by being present in it... I don't think we can safely conclude said higher power would give us the means to feel pleasure and also intend for us to use it.

 

We can use the pleasure in a healthy married relationship. God wants us to love sex with the one we are married to as it makes us become one. He celebrates sex in the Bible. 

[stepee]

13 minutes ago, best3444 said:

 

No ancient man slipped in anything about masturbation in any scripture. As said many times in this thread, masturbation isn't mentioned in the Bible.

 

It's the porn that I would use or disgusting visualizations that I would use to climax. I feel porn to be evil and thinking about fucking some women without porn is evil imo, too. So it's sinning. It's a lack of self control and you must treat your body like a holy temple. In the Bible they talk about sex a lot but it's only with married couples. That's my belief and I'm sticking to it. It's not torture or God being a dick either to not masturbate. I don't view it that way at all. I could go on and on in what the Bible explains about how I interpret masturbation being a sin from the scriptures I've read. It's a personal choice. That's why I wanted to end this conversation earlier. There's nothing more to be said. 

 

 

Masturbating to porn never made me happy. It made me feel guilty and sick tbh. There's a reason to that. 

 

 

We can use the pleasure in a healthy married relationship. God wants us to love sex with the one we are married to as it makes us become one. He celebrates sex in the Bible. 

 

Man, you drew the short stick when they were handing out Gods. My God all stroke that shitttttttt.

[legend]

14 hours ago, best3444 said:

No ancient man slipped in anything about masturbation in any scripture. As said many times in this thread, masturbation isn't mentioned in the Bible.

 

It's the porn that I would use or disgusting visualizations that I would use to climax. I feel porn to be evil and thinking about fucking some women without porn is evil imo, too. So it's sinning. It's a lack of self control and you must treat your body like a holy temple. In the Bible they talk about sex a lot but it's only with married couples. That's my belief and I'm sticking to it. It's not torture or God being a dick either to not masturbate. I don't view it that way at all. I could go on and on in what the Bible explains about how I interpret masturbation being a sin from the scriptures I've read. It's a personal choice. That's why I wanted to end this conversation earlier. There's nothing more to be said. 

 

Well if you personally think it's evil that's one thing. There are issues with the pornographic industry that I could maybe sympathize with for having a distaste for it. But masturbation is not the same thing as pornography and not all pornography is the same. So I don't quite see how you can get there to banning yourself from all masturbation.

 

Self control to stop yourself from doing something that will ultimately hurt you or others more than it will gain you in the short term is a good trait. Self control for self controls sake is kind of pointless though  

 

If I were you, I would search why you think it's "evil" and see if you can really justify that belief. And I suggest that because beating yourself up over pointless things is going to have a negative net effect on your mental health. It will make you feel bad for no reason. So seriously think about just why you think it's evil. Better yet, lose words like "evil" from the equation altogether. When people start thinking about what is "evil" or "moral" it has a tendency to cause people to just lean on their preconceived notions of what good and bad is, without investigation into those very notions. Instead ask yourself who is harmed by you masturbating. Work from there.

[Keyser_Soze]

Furthermore, why worship the lame christian god who's just some dude? Why not worship a cool god like an Egyptian, Norse or Greek god?

[stepee]

Honestly, you could also just go back to prostitution, then you are helping out sex workers so you don’t have to feel guilt.

[Joe]

The guy who wrote Best's first post and the guy who wrote Best's last post in this thread are literally two different people. If it turns out this dude is a parody account, I'm going to be pretty upset.

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

15 minutes ago, Joe said:

The guy who wrote Best's first post and the guy who wrote Best's last post in this thread are literally two different people. If it turns out this dude is a parody account, I'm going to be pretty upset.

 

The fact that it took him nearly two days to come to the same damned conclusion that I clearly and unequivocally spelled out in the third post of this thread once again illustrates the superiority of my knowledge of the degenerate, slave morality religion of the Christians.

[CastlevaniaNut18]

22 minutes ago, Joe said:

The guy who wrote Best's first post and the guy who wrote Best's last post in this thread are literally two different people. If it turns out this dude is a parody account, I'm going to be pretty upset.

Honestly, have you followed Best's posts over the years?

[stepee]

42 minutes ago, Joe said:

The guy who wrote Best's first post and the guy who wrote Best's last post in this thread are literally two different people. If it turns out this dude is a parody account, I'm going to be pretty upset.

 

Do you remember the stuff he used to post back when he was ohioguy???

[Best]

10 hours ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said:

Honestly, have you followed Best's posts over the years?

 

I used to post drunk when I initially started posting here. I remember being very cruel and out of control. I was cruel towards you a lot so I'm genuinely sorry for that. Over the years I've changed considerably and obviously I'm not perfect.

 

You seem to always have something negative to say about me even recently and I haven’t done anything to you. In fact, I've reached out and tried to be kind to you and you flat out ignore it. Then when you get an opportunity to take a hit on me you do. Most recently now and the one time I mentioned prayer in a post. I like you as a poster and we used to get a long. 

 

I'm not sure why now you have a negative outlook on me. It's whatever but please ignore my posts and threads if you're only going to post negative comments towards me. I can say a lot about you but I don't. 

 

Thanks. 

 

10 hours ago, Joe said:

The guy who wrote Best's first post and the guy who wrote Best's last post in this thread are literally two different people. If it turns out this dude is a parody account, I'm going to be pretty upset.

 

It's something that was on my mind and I was battling which way to go. So my posts and thoughts changed. 

[Biggie]

32 minutes ago, best3444 said:

 

You seem to always have something negative to say about me even recently and I haven’t done anything to you. In fact, I've reached out and tried to be kind to you and you flat out ignore it. 

I’ve been here for 9 years and she has always been like that. Tbh she’s a bitch. And yeah I know I’m an asshole troll but atleast I own being an asshole troll. She likes to pretend she is such a great person and she really isn’t. 

[Joe]

That was a pretty darn innocuous post on her part, guys.

[Biggie]

8 minutes ago, Joe said:

That was a pretty darn innocuous post on her part, guys.

[CastlevaniaNut18]

6 hours ago, best3444 said:

 

I used to post drunk when I initially started posting here. I remember being very cruel and out of control. I was cruel towards you a lot so I'm genuinely sorry for that. Over the years I've changed considerably and obviously I'm not perfect.

 

You seem to always have something negative to say about me even recently and I haven’t done anything to you. In fact, I've reached out and tried to be kind to you and you flat out ignore it. Then when you get an opportunity to take a hit on me you do. Most recently now and the one time I mentioned prayer in a post. I like you as a poster and we used to get a long. 

 

I'm not sure why now you have a negative outlook on me. It's whatever but please ignore my posts and threads if you're only going to post negative comments towards me. I can say a lot about you but I don't. 

 

Thanks. 

Thanks for acknowledging how terrible you used to be toward me. I think the two posts you're referencing now are quite mild by comparison, but I'm sorry I upset you. 

 

You're still being pretty passive aggressive toward me with that last sentence and your approval of Biggie's mean-spirited post, but I'm not going to worry too much about it. 

 

 

[CastlevaniaNut18]

6 hours ago, Biggie said:

I’ve been here for 9 years and she has always been like that. Tbh she’s a bitch. And yeah I know I’m an asshole troll but atleast I own being an asshole troll. She likes to pretend she is such a great person and she really isn’t. 

I treat people based on how I'm treated. I can totally be a bitch when appropriate. Mostly, I just ignore you these days, though. You're too much of a try hard. 

[Biggie]

23 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said:

I treat people based on how I'm treated. I can totally be a bitch when appropriate. Mostly, I just ignore you these days, though. You're too much of a try hard. 

That’s just it, you treat people like shit even when they aren’t treating you like shit.  

[CastlevaniaNut18]

1 minute ago, Biggie said:

That’s just it, you treat people like shit even when they aren’t treating you like shit.  

Yeah, not really. 

[Ominous]

Tobias the God of jerkin it has no problem with it 

[Best]

4 hours ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said:

Thanks for acknowledging how terrible you used to be toward me. I think the two posts you're referencing now are quite mild by comparison, but I'm sorry I upset you. 

 

You're still being pretty passive aggressive toward me with that last sentence and your approval of Biggie's mean-spirited post, but I'm not going to worry too much about it. 

 

 

 

I haven't treated you poorly in years. I've always tried to be friendly and at one point we were on good terms. Now you just take cheap shots at me and ignore anything I say to you. I'll just leave you alone but I expect you to leave my threads and posts alone, too. When I say years, I mean like almost 10 years ago lol. And yes, I can say a lot about you but I won't. Let's just move along shall we...

[CastlevaniaNut18]

7 minutes ago, best3444 said:

 

I haven't treated you poorly in years. I've always tried to be friendly and at one point we were on good terms. Now you just take cheap shots at me and ignore anything I say to you. I'll just leave you alone but I expect you to leave my threads and posts alone, too. When I say years, I mean like almost 10 years ago lol. And yes, I can say a lot about you but I won't. Let's just move along shall we...

Weird how you don't say anything to the others who say worse. I literally made two mild comments. But, sure, keep up the passive-agressive style. I'm sure Jesus approves. And I'm pretty sure it's been more recent than 10 years, especially if you're counting Discord. 

 

Again, I'm sorry I upset you. But, no, I'm not going to promise I won't ever say anything to you again. That's silly and childish. 

[Best]

5 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said:

Weird how you don't say anything to the others who say worse. I literally made two mild comments. But, sure, keep up the passive-agressive style. I'm sure Jesus approves. And I'm pretty sure it's been more recent than 10 years, especially if you're counting Discord. 

 

Again, I'm sorry I upset you. But, no, I'm not going to promise I won't ever say anything to you again. That's silly and childish. 

 

lol, believe me, you're not upsetting me in the slightest. Nobody says anything to me to be a dick/bitch like you do. I have 0 problems with anybody on this forum. If anyone says anything to me they're joking and actually make me laugh. You just make me cringe.

 

The stuff you recently said isn't even that harsh but there's no need for it. You don't communicate with me but just say things randomly when you feel like taking a shot at me. That's why I think it's lame and worth pointing out. We don't interact yet you think it's ok to take shots at me whenever you feel like doing so. I've only said nice things to you and you ignore them. Then we you decide to be a bitch you slide right into a thread or a post and take a cheap shot. If you have an issue with me say it to ME. Don't make childish comments in my threads or quote me when we don't even communicate. 

 

If I hurt you in years past, sorry. If I hurt you on discord I don't recall that. All I remember from discord was you and Andrea going at it. Just be an adult and ignore me if you have a problem with me. Don't act childish and do what you have been doing.

 

Don't worry about Jesus either. I know your stance on that. We can leave that alone. 

[CastlevaniaNut18]

I don't think Jesus called people bitches, either. 

 

I'm not sure when you've made compliments toward me, sorry if I missed something. 

 

I clearly made you feel some kind of way with the responses you keep giving me. And you gotta be blind if you think I'm the only person here who has ever "been mean" to you. You clearly have a problem that's fixated on my exclusively. If you need a scapegoat during your troubled times, that's fine, I guess. 

 

I know you've been through some stuff and I truly am sorry for that. I'd never attack you based on those things. But if you're going to live your life strictly biblical, you might want to look at some of your own unchristlike behaviors. It goes way beyond the whole masturbation thing. 

[Keyser_Soze]

[Biggie]

1 hour ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said:

I don't think Jesus called people bitches, either. 

 

I'm not sure when you've made compliments toward me, sorry if I missed something. 

 

I clearly made you feel some kind of way with the responses you keep giving me. And you gotta be blind if you think I'm the only person here who has ever "been mean" to you. You clearly have a problem that's fixated on my exclusively. If you need a scapegoat during your troubled times, that's fine, I guess. 

 

I know you've been through some stuff and I truly am sorry for that. I'd never attack you based on those things. But if you're going to live your life strictly biblical, you might want to look at some of your own unchristlike behaviors. It goes way beyond the whole masturbation thing. 

Seek therapy and soon. 

[CastlevaniaNut18]

1 minute ago, Biggie said:

Seek therapy and soon. 

See, now that's a shitty thing to say. Especially when I've discussed my own mental health struggles here. Can't imagine why I'm not friendly to you!

[Biggie]

6 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said:

See, now that's a shitty thing to say. Especially when I've discussed my own mental health struggles here. Can't imagine why I'm not friendly to you!

 

I treat people based on how I'm treated. I can totally be a dick when appropriate.

[CastlevaniaNut18]

Just now, Biggie said:

 

I treat people based on how I'm treated. I can totally be a dick when appropriate.

Yeah, I don't ever make fun of mental health issues. There are certain lines you don't cross and absolutely nothing I said warranted that kind of attack.

[Biggie]

3 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said:

Yeah, I don't ever make fun of mental health issues. There are certain lines you don't cross and absolutely nothing I said warranted that kind of attack.

If it makes you feel any better I was referring to your problem with religion. On one hand you say you don’t believe and yet you throw out examples of what Jesus would or wouldn’t do. You’re confused. Seek help. 

[CastlevaniaNut18]

Just now, Biggie said:

If it makes you feel any better I was referring to your problem with religion. On one hand you say you don’t believe and yet you throw out examples of what Jesus would or wouldn’t do. You’re confused. Seek help. 

I believe there was a historical figure named Jesus who taught a lot of what's in the Bible. I've said so on this very forum. I also believe if you're going to dedicate your life to following his teachings, then maybe stick with it. Those concepts are not at odds with each other.

 

Again, making fun of metal health issues is incredibly shitty. I may not agree with Best's religious beliefs, but I'm sure the hell never going to mock him for his mental health issues.

[Biggie]

Just now, CastlevaniaNut18 said:

I believe there was a historical figure named Jesus who taught a lot of what's in the Bible. I've said so on this very forum. I also believe if you're going to dedicate your life to following his teachings, then maybe stick with it. Those concepts are not at odds with each other.

 

Again, making fun of metal health issues is incredibly shitty. I may not agree with Best's religious beliefs, but I'm sure the hell never going to mock him for his mental health issues.

Ok don’t think I was mocking you but I’ll let it go. 

[CastlevaniaNut18]

Telling someone to seek therapy because you wrongly claim they're "confused" is absolutely mocking mental health issues. But probably wise to stop digging in deeper.