Air_Delivery Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 39 minutes ago, sblfilms said: What is the scenario in which Hamas stops attacking Israeli civilians? What scenario does Israel stop stealing Palestinian land? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, Anathema- said: Probably none, but there are plenty of ways to make it so that someone cares about Palestinian lives other than Hamas. I don’t know what this means Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Air_Delivery said: What scenario does Israel stop stealing Palestinian land? Oh man, a question with a question. GOT ME! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 Just now, sblfilms said: Oh man, a question with a question. GOT ME! It seems to be fine with the status quo of Palestinians just doing nothing while Israel slowly eradicates them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Air_Delivery said: It seems to be fine with the status quo of Palestinians just doing nothing while Israel slowly eradicates them. They aren’t being eradicated. The population of Palestine continues to grow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 1 minute ago, sblfilms said: They aren’t being eradicated. The population of Palestine continues to grow. Into a smaller and smaller area until they are completely forced out and dispersed. Which is the right wing goal of Israel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 Just now, Air_Delivery said: Into a smaller and smaller area until they are completely forced out and dispersed. Which is the right wing goal of Israel. It for tat. How many time did the Arabs that surround Israel try to drive them into the sea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 Just now, mclumber1 said: It for tat. How many time did the Arabs that surround Israel try to drive them into the sea? I'm not sure how that is relevant to anything happening here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 10 hours ago, mclumber1 said: It for tat. How many time did the Arabs that surround Israel try to drive them into the sea? Probably only the 1948 war and that's a tenuous notion at best. 1956 - Israel joined the UK and France in a war of aggression against Egypt after the Nasser regime nationalized the Suez Canal 1967 - Israel preemptively attacked the Arab nations 1973 - Egypt and Syria attacked first, but the objective the war was to regain the Sinai (Egypt) and the Golan (Syira) which Israel had occupied during the 1967 war. 1982 - Israel invaded Lebanon to dislodge the PLO The claim that "the Arabs tried to drive Israel into the sea" is largely -- if not entirely -- right-wing Israeli and their American apologist propaganda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 In the interest of Israeli civilians we need to sell Hamas high tech weapons so that they only attack encroaching Israeli attack helicopters and military installations. It's only fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 52 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: In the interest of Israeli civilians we need to sell Hamas high tech weapons so that they only attack encroaching Israeli attack helicopters and military installations. It's only fair. Create a micro MAD situation to get everyone to get along? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 10 hours ago, sblfilms said: I don’t know what this means I don't have to align myself with hamas to recognize the humanity of the Palestinians. I don't have to make a moral case for random attacks on non-military targets to understand that it's natural to align yourself with the only people who are willing to defend your home being invaded and stolen. Isreal has literally all the power here so they really have all the responsibility to resolve this in any other way than what they're doing now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, ManUtdRedDevils said: What do you even do about this! Fucking nothing. Jesus Christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 The hand wringing about Hamas is the exact same as the hand wringing around the ANC in apartheid South Africa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted May 16, 2021 Author Share Posted May 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: The hand wringing about Hamas is the exact same as the hand wringing around the ANC in apartheid South Africa. Same shit we do here too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 19 minutes ago, Anathema- said: Isreal has literally all the power here so they really have all the responsibility to resolve this in any other way than what they're doing now. There is no resolution other than Israel dissolving and the Jews leaving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 23 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: The hand wringing about Hamas is the exact same as the hand wringing around the ANC in apartheid South Africa. Speaking of South Africa, guess who helped its apartheid-era government develop and test a nuclear weapon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Speaking of South Africa, guess who helped its apartheid-era government develop and test a nuclear weapon? Birds of a feather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 Hamas has no interest in Peace. Some areas of the Arab world have publicly stated their desire to completely annihilate the Jewish people in Israel. Does that justify the over-response in Gaza -- no. But, it does help us understand it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 Even if you solved the issue in the West Bank, the bigger problem is what do you do with Gaza? It will continue to be an open-air person unless either Egypt or Israel opens the border, neither of which is interested for obvious reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 53 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said: Even if you solved the issue in the West Bank, the bigger problem is what do you do with Gaza? It will continue to be an open-air person unless either Egypt or Israel opens the border, neither of which is interested for obvious reasons. Hamas’s stated objective is to create an Islamic state that includes all areas of Palestine - including all of Israel. Their founding charters specifically ban any allegiance with the Crusader West or the Communist East - and call out the UN as an organization founded on Zionist money. Their charter also focuses on indoctrination of all children to their goals and jihad. A translation from their founding charter: Quote The initiatives, the so-called peace solutions, and the international conferences for resolving the Palestinian problem stand in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement, for to neglect any part of Palestine is to neglect part of the Islamic faith. The nationalism of the Islamic Resistance Movement is part of its [Islamic] faith. It is in the light of this principle that its members are educated, and they wage jihad in order to raise the banner of Allah over the homeland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 @Commissar SFLUFAN I've really enjoyed your recommendations over the years. Do you have any podcast or documentary recommendations on the 1948 Arab-Israeli War or the Six-Day War (or really anything post 1950)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 3 hours ago, sblfilms said: There is no resolution other than Israel dissolving and the Jews leaving There's more to Palestine and its people than hamas, just as we can't blame all of Isreal for the actions of the Likud fanatics. Don't let the language of those who would commit genocide fool you into forgetting that there are more real people suffering because of actions that Isreal is taking when they could be doing something else. We do it for Israelis, we need to do it for Palestinians as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 10 minutes ago, Anathema- said: There's more to Palestine and its people than hamas, just as we can't blame all of Isreal for the actions of the Likud fanatics. Don't let the language of those who would commit genocide fool you into forgetting that there are more real people suffering because of actions that Isreal is taking when they could be doing something else. We do it for Israelis, we need to do it for Palestinians as well. The Palestinian people were about to elect Hamas as their government explicitly because of how they handle Israel. Palestinian people overwhelmingly oppose Israel’s right to exist. And it’s amusing that you bring up Likud and not blaming all of Israel for them, because the one bit of policy the vast majority of Israelis support Likud on is their treatment of Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 not shocked Israel is a bitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 2 hours ago, ManUtdRedDevils said: Throw in the $1.3 billion/year to Egypt while we're at it, Bernie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 I hate these sorts of tweets. You see them also in regards to Black men killed by police. It doesn’t become wrong or more terrible because of their career or because they were a good person. If these people had all been unemployed and playing Fortnite all day, it would still be an awful thing that they were killed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, sblfilms said: I hate these sorts of tweets. You see them also in regards to Black men killed by police. It doesn’t become wrong or more terrible because of their career or because they were a good person. If these people had all been unemployed and playing Fortnite all day, it would still be an awful thing that they were killed To some, a person's humanity is conditional on what they bring to the table Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CitizenVectron Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 "A young person living in the area where terrorist group Hamas launches attacks against Jewish people is no longer living after a bullet entered their body." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 29 minutes ago, ManUtdRedDevils said: The ol' officer involved shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 “It’s anti-Israel, not anti-Jew” they always say... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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