SuperSpreader Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 1 hour ago, Chris- said: Kind of crazy that modern warfare has evolved to be a mixture of Neuromancer and Looney Toons. WW2 had fake planes, fake runways, fake everything The Germans even hid parts of the city under a fake tree canopy so it just looked like a park or incorporated land from an airplane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Y’all are literally overlooking half of the joke!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted August 18 Author Share Posted August 18 wsj.com WWW.WSJ.COM Good article on Ukraine's current offensive in Russia. They planned for months, and used drones and recon teams (sneaking across the border) to both destroy infrastructure as well as jam Russian radio/comms during the assault. They used western Strykers and Humvees to race past Russian towns without stopping to fight, getting as deep as they could before cementing into position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 3 hours ago, Chris- said: Y’all are literally overlooking half of the joke!! Stick to pizza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted August 19 Author Share Posted August 19 Ukraine did not inform the US or any other allied nation about its plan to invade Kursk, as they believe that Americans leaked their previous offensive to the Russians (and vetoed a second planned offensive): Just a moment... WWW.ECONOMIST.COM Additionally, Ukraine just stated yesterday that even though the UK has approved Storm Shadow cruise missiles to be used against targets in Russia, the US is vetoing it (will withdraw American aid if cruise missiles are used against Russia). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted August 19 Author Share Posted August 19 Ukraine has completed the cauldron: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted August 19 Author Share Posted August 19 Ukraine struck an oil depot in Proletarsk (200km from border) and it's been burning out of control for 2 days, taking out many/most of the large storage tanks: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 2 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: Ukraine did not inform the US or any other allied nation about its plan to invade Kursk, as they believe that Americans leaked their previous offensive to the Russians (and vetoed a second planned offensive): Just a moment... WWW.ECONOMIST.COM Additionally, Ukraine just stated yesterday that even though the UK has approved Storm Shadow cruise missiles to be used against targets in Russia, the US is vetoing it (will withdraw American aid if cruise missiles are used against Russia). The one thing everyone should know about US "red lines" is that it just words, do it and when nothing bad happens we'll just keep going like nothing happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted August 25 Author Share Posted August 25 Crazy Helicopter gunner taking down a Russian Shahed drone 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted August 26 Author Share Posted August 26 Russia launched what appears to be its biggest missile attack yet (on the morning after Ukraine's independence day), primarily targeting power infrastructure, with: 127 cruise missiles 109 Shahed drones Ukraine managed to shoot down 102 of the 127 missiles, and 99 of the 109 drones Estimated cost of this attack (in Russian arms) is $1.2 billion USD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbob42 Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 31 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Russia launched what appears to be its biggest missile attack yet (on the morning after Ukraine's independence day), primarily targeting power infrastructure, with: 127 cruise missiles 109 Shahed drones Ukraine managed to shoot down 102 of the 127 missiles, and 99 of the 109 drones Estimated cost of this attack (in Russian arms) is $1.2 billion USD. Getting $190 million in value out of a $1.2 billion spend? They really are just like us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 Just now, Xbob42 said: Getting $190 million in value out of a $1.2 billion spend? They really are just like us! I do want to point out that it's typically the case that the defensive weaponry used for the interceptions tends to be more monetarily expensive than the offensive weaponry used in the attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbob42 Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 Yeah but successfully defending against missiles and drones is cool as shit, while a failed assault is lame as hell, which I believe Sun Tzu once said. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted August 26 Share Posted August 26 On 8/25/2024 at 10:31 AM, CitizenVectron said: Crazy Helicopter gunner taking down a Russian Shahed drone 1 hour ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: I do want to point out that it's typically the case that the defensive weaponry used for the interceptions tends to be more monetarily expensive than the offensive weaponry used in the attack. Between the Ukraine video and the IDF one of an Apache gunning down a drone, Air Cav is very excited to be the new ADA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted August 27 Author Share Posted August 27 Ukraine has started using their own new long-range weapon since the US won't allow American gear to be used. No one knows the exact details, but it's a "missile drone." Best theory based on photos is that it's effectively a cruise missile/drone hybrid (where the rocket gets the drone to a long-distance location, where the drone detaches and then strikes). Ukraine counts on new long-range weapon to bypass Western restrictions and hit deep into Russia APNEWS.COM Ukraine says it has a new homegrown long-range weapon that will allow it to strike deep into Russia without asking permission from allies. The name of the new weapon is (I think) the translation of a type of bread. The reason the word was chosen is that it is very difficult for Russians to pronounce. So much so, that in the early stages of the war the Ukrainians would use it as a checkpoint word for civilians they were allowing through their lines to make sure they weren't Russians in disguise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted August 27 Author Share Posted August 27 It also appears that Ukraine is attacking the Russian border between Kharkiv and Belgorod. Possibly a new offensive into Russia, or possibly just a skirmish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted August 27 Author Share Posted August 27 Oh, and: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted August 28 Author Share Posted August 28 Ukraine is apparently now using (successfully) FPV drones to take out ISR (recon) drones. 115 confirmed interceptions so far. They've also taken out at least 3 attack helicopters with FPV drones. Basically anything that moves in a relatively slow, stable line can be hit by these. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted August 30 Author Share Posted August 30 Ukraine has lost its first F-16. Moreover, it looks like a friendly fire incident from a Patriot battery. The head of the Ukrainian Air Force has just been removed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 Not going to post it, because jesus fuck, but there is a video of a Ukrainian drone burning out a Russian occupied tree line by dropping molten thermite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted September 2 Author Share Posted September 2 Just now, Jwheel86 said: Not going to post it, because jesus fuck, but there is a video of a Ukrainian drone burning out a Russian occupied tree line by dropping molten thermite. Yeah, it's something out of a Terminator film. I watched a video the other day from a Russian soldier's POV as Ukraine FPV drones screamed over their trench, back and forth, hunting for soldiers. The sound of the drone's quad rotors was like a human-monster wail. It was terrifying. It's the new sound of trench warfare, of little tiny metal grenades hovering over your position just waiting for signs of life so they can dive down and explode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 5 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said: Not going to post it, because jesus fuck, but there is a video of a Ukrainian drone burning out a Russian occupied tree line by dropping molten thermite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyPiranha Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 26 minutes ago, TUFKAK said: Welcome to гарячі the show with hot thermite and even hotter combatants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted September 3 Author Share Posted September 3 At Least 41 People Reported Killed, Over 180 Injured in Poltava Following Russian Missile Attack UNITED24MEDIA.COM Russia’s missile strike on a Poltava educational institution has resulted in at least 41 deaths and 180 injuries, with ongoing rescue effort… 51 dead and 200+ injured in Russian ballistic missile strike on the city of Poltava. Two ballistic missiles were used, targeting and educational institute and a hospital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted September 3 Author Share Posted September 3 Meanwhile, the US continues to put out PR statements like "we stand with the people of Ukraine," meanwhile preventing Ukraine from striking Russian air bases with long-range weapons, including weapons given by other countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted September 3 Author Share Posted September 3 Oh, and Russia is about to have a huge amount more ballistic missiles to hit schools and hospitals, from Iran: Bloomberg - Are you a robot? WWW.BLOOMBERG.COM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted September 4 Author Share Posted September 4 More videos out there of Ukraine using drones armed with thermite to burn out Russian positions: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted September 4 Author Share Posted September 4 Russia struck Lviv in western Ukraine last night, flying cruise missiles along the Belarussian and Polish borders: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted September 10 Author Share Posted September 10 Nice, after Russia has had months to move and hide their most-valuable targets. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted September 10 Author Share Posted September 10 It's too little, too late. At this point, it would be better to give Ukraine another 100 tanks and 300 field artillery units. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Speaking of tanks - how effective has the Abrams been since Ukraine started deploying these tanks to the front lines? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted September 10 Author Share Posted September 10 4 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: Speaking of tanks - how effective has the Abrams been since Ukraine started deploying these tanks to the front lines? I think more effective than their Soviet stock, but still less effective than the US hoped. This is mainly because, while main battle tanks still have a valid role in warfare, they are less effective in slog campaigns of trench and forest warfare where drones and ATGM are in use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted Wednesday at 07:40 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 07:40 PM Thanks to Elon my feed is now tons of videos of Russians offing themselves, including one who did so by placing a grenade beneath his head. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted Wednesday at 09:20 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 09:20 PM 1 hour ago, Chris- said: Thanks to Elon my feed is now tons of videos of Russians offing themselves, including one who did so by placing a grenade beneath his head. Elon is too busy using his platform in a vain attempt to breed with Taylor Swift, who even has the time to delete suicide videos? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted Wednesday at 09:27 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 09:27 PM 1 hour ago, Chris- said: Thanks to Elon my feed is now tons of videos of Russians offing themselves, including one who did so by placing a grenade beneath his head. Blue Sky has the juice now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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