mclumber1 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 18 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: Does Ukraine even have another 23 pilots to fly the MiG 29s? or are some Polish pilots going on "holiday" to lovely Ukraine? Ukrainian citizenship for any Polish MiG pilots! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Man post invasion is gonna be ugly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CayceG Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 minute ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Man post invasion is gonna be ugly Even if Ukraine routes Russia and there's no insurgency, a victorious Ukraine is going to have a massive increase in nationalist fervor, which means it will be a huge playground for fascist groups--moreso than other places in Europe. It's gonna be bad even if there's no western-backed insurgency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, CayceG said: Even if Ukraine routes Russia and there's no insurgency, a victorious Ukraine is going to have a massive increase in nationalist fervor, which means it will be a huge playground for fascist groups--moreso than other places in Europe. It's gonna be bad even if there's no western-backed insurgency. I am concerned about the destablizing effect of just flooding a country with weapons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Zaku3 said: I am concerned about the destablizing effect of just flooding a country with weapons. I'm sure Zelenskiy is too, which is why he's generally not going to have too tight a hold on Azov Btn's reins. He won't want backlash from a crackdown. Essentially, it's always the fascists that wind up having the military power and force of arms to overthrow a government. Gotta balance that card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: LIKE AND RT IF YOU THINK COKE SHOULD SUSPEND ALL OPERATIONS OF DIET COKE IN MAR A LAGO!!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, CayceG said: Even if Ukraine routes Russia and there's no insurgency, a victorious Ukraine is going to have a massive increase in nationalist fervor, which means it will be a huge playground for fascist groups--moreso than other places in Europe. It's gonna be bad even if there's no western-backed insurgency. Yep 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Just now, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Yep Oh jesus christ IT ISN'T SOVIET! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, CayceG said: Oh jesus christ IT ISN'T SOVIET! Fuck Soviets!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 24 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: McDonalds is still operating aren’t they? So everyone now gets water/milk in their Unhappy Meals. Waiting to see if Pepsi follows suite, and they own a lot of various companies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 16 minutes ago, silentbob said: McDonalds is still operating aren’t they? So everyone now gets water/milk in their Unhappy Meals. Waiting to see if Pepsi follows suite, and they own a lot of various companies Mcdonald's is closing stores for now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, Zaku3 said: Mcdonald's is closing stores for now. Are they all corporate-run stores in Russia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Hopefully everyone is as generous with their pocketbooks as they were with their MANPADs, when this is over with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 10 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucoe Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 2 hours ago, PaladinSolo said: Does Ukraine even have another 23 pilots to fly the MiG 29s? or are some Polish pilots going on "holiday" to lovely Ukraine? I'm going to be flying one for them. I may not have a lot of combat flight experience, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express once. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 It would be kinda funny if Russia just said "fuck it" and went back to communism after the international community shut them out of finance and western economics. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Fly them to Switzerland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 This entire "MiG Affair" wasted so much time and energy for what was a truly stupid, untenable idea to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finaljedi Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Listen, you just kind of leave the MiG on the sidewalk and take a walk around the block, if a Ukrainian happens to walk by and pick it up then that's not your fault. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, finaljedi said: Listen, you just kind of leave the MiG on the sidewalk and take a walk around the block, if a Ukrainian happens to walk by and pick it up then that's not your fault. Just leave the keys on the dash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 I'd take a MiG-29. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 There any straight roads on the Polish border? Push the jets over the border, take off from Ukraine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Just keep sending them those remote drones that they seem to be pretty deadly with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 With "friends" like these... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucoe Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 15 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: The Avengers did more damage to their airport than the Russians did, and the Avengers were only trying to kill each other. The Russians were trying to kill the airport. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 13 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: With "friends" like these... Cartel holding the line which tracks but they’re also aligned with the petrochemical right wing in this country so I expect no favors from these guys and I don’t see the American Democratic Party turning on these guys anytime soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mclumber1 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 I personally think this MiG fiasco is just cover: Either Ukraine already has these planes, or they will very shortly. All of these chatter and confusion is meant to throw off the Russians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: With "friends" like these... Cancel their Frigate program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 The ISW has released their assessment for today: Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, March 8 | Institute for the Study of War WWW.UNDERSTANDINGWAR.ORG Russian forces continued concentrating in the eastern, northwestern, and western outskirts of Kyiv for an assault on the capital in the coming 24-96 hours. The reported appearance of forces belonging to Chechen leader Ramazan Kadyrov, Russia’s Rosgvardia Quote Russian forces continued concentrating in the eastern, northwestern, and western outskirts of Kyiv for an assault on the capital in the coming 24-96 hours. The reported appearance of forces belonging to Chechen leader Ramazan Kadyrov, Russia’s Rosgvardia internal security formations, and the Liga (former Wagner) Private Military Company in the western outskirts of Kyiv may indicate that the Russian military is struggling to assemble sufficient conventional combat power to launch its assault on the capital. Russian forces near Kyiv made limited gains and prepared for limited drives to continue their attempted encirclement to the west. Ukrainian forces have continued to challenge the lengthy Russian ground lines of communication leading from near Sumy to eastern Kyiv. Russian forces near Kharkiv have been steadily diverting to secure and extend those lines over the past few days, as we have reported. The Ukrainian General Staff reported on March 8 that Russian troops currently near Chernihiv appear to be moving east. We assess that those forces may seek to link up with troops coming from near Sumy to help them consolidate and protect their extended lines in support of the planned offensive against Kyiv. The situation in eastern Ukraine and southwestern Ukraine remained largely unchanged in the past 24 hours. Ukrainian General Staff reporting of additional Russian efforts to advance on the city of Zaporizhya likely confirm that Russia intends to make blocking that city a priority. The forces Russia is so far moving toward Zaporizhya appear to be far too small to encircle or take it. Key Takeaways Russian forces are consolidating and preparing for further operations along the western and eastern outskirts of Kyiv, especially in the Irpin area in the west and the Brovary area in the east; Ukrainian forces are challenging the extended Russian lines reaching from Sumy, which Russian forces have not yet taken, to the eastern outskirts of Kyiv; Russian troops are likely attempting to bypass Mykolayiv and cross the Southern Bug upriver of that city to permit an advance on Odesa combined with an impending amphibious operation against that city; and Russian forces are also driving north from Crimea toward the city of Zaporizhya. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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