CitizenVectron Posted March 7, 2022 Author Share Posted March 7, 2022 We'll just give infantry big sticks with spikes on them to swat drones out of the air. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 minute ago, CitizenVectron said: We'll just give infantry big sticks with spikes on them to swat drones out of the air. Or jars of cucumbers. The latest act of Ukrainian bravery: Russian drone downed 'by a jar of cucumbers' - Manchester Evening News WWW.MANCHESTEREVENINGNEWS.CO.UK While the west baulks at a no fly zone over Ukraine, a woman in Kyiv is said to have taken out a drone with a jar of pickles from her balcony 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 7, 2022 Author Share Posted March 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Or jars of cucumbers. The latest act of Ukrainian bravery: Russian drone downed 'by a jar of cucumbers' - Manchester Evening News WWW.MANCHESTEREVENINGNEWS.CO.UK While the west baulks at a no fly zone over Ukraine, a woman in Kyiv is said to have taken out a drone with a jar of pickles from her balcony BANPAP (Baba portable air defense pickles) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 34 minutes ago, finaljedi said: It probably helps when you have infantry moving with your armor and aren't just sending a column of vehicles up the road unsupported. Pfft, I've played thousands of hours of Civilization and a stack of tanks can blitz pretty much anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 14 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: We'll just give infantry big sticks with spikes on them to swat drones out of the air. Phalanx beats battleship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CitizenVectron Posted March 7, 2022 Author Share Posted March 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jason said: Quite amazing since the war so far has been mostly between Russians and Ukrainian-Russians in the east/south of Ukraine. Like...if Russia had invaded western Ukraine then that excuse would at least look semi-plausible as a lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Fun historical fact: San Marino had a democratically-elected, Communist Party-led coalition government from 1945-1957. The purpose of that list was to announce that financial obligations owed to those countries would be settled in rubles as opposed to dollars/euros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kal-El814 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jason said: Hmm. On 3/3/2022 at 9:54 AM, ManUtdRedDevils said: Even after the sanctions are lifted, I can’t imagine any foreign investment will come flooding back unless Putin is removed. On 3/3/2022 at 10:29 AM, Kal-El814 said: Oh I think you'd be surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: Hmm. On 3/3/2022 at 11:49 AM, Commissar SFLUFAN said: If the Russian state decides to start expropriating foreign-owned investments (and not just freezing their liquidation) , then even private investment may not come back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 @Commissar SFLUFAN I mean, yeah, but it’s strange to see people speculating about the long term priority value prospects of a home presently on fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: @Commissar SFLUFAN I mean, yeah, but it’s strange to see people speculating about the long term priority value prospects of a home presently on fire. In this market they’ll get an all cash offer 15% over asking no inspection. wait 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 hour ago, CitizenVectron said: We'll just give infantry big sticks with spikes on them to swat drones out of the air. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 7, 2022 Author Share Posted March 7, 2022 That seems a tad high 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jason said: That's certainly an adroit (if obvious) way to parse the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: That seems a tad high What utter horseshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyPiranha Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: What utter horseshit. There’s absolutely no way they’re approaching US Vietnam losses in half a month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Just now, LazyPiranha said: There’s absolutely no way they’re approaching US Vietnam losses in half a month. That rate of attrition is catastrophic in a way that's simply beyond any military comprehension and would mean that Russian forces would have collapsed already. The organization that published that analysis should never be taken remotely seriously ever again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 7, 2022 Author Share Posted March 7, 2022 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 It was pickled tomatoes with plums not cucumbers. Fake news media at it once again 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 This is an interesting analysis of the Russian air force's poor showing from what seems to be a legit UK defense think tank. The whole thing is not very long, but what it boils down to is that they can't imagine that the Russians are holding anything in reserve or otherwise choosing not to establish more complete air superiority and that instead the Russians are simply incapable of doing so. Given the aircraft they have in the numbers they have them, you'd expect the Russians to easily establish air superiority over all of Ukraine, but that simply hasn't happened. They point out that Russian pilots get fewer flight ours per year than their western counterparts, when they do fly they do so in far less demanding conditions, and they have far less comprehensive simulators. So the whole Russian Air Force is simply incapable of organizing complex air operations at the scale required. While this is simply an informed guess and far from a definitive analysis, it's interesting speculation, and not something I'd have considered before the war. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ominous Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 7 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: This is 100% what it is. With the forces and supplies currently inside Ukraine, Russia has little hope of achieving their goals. Also once all the citizens are allowed time to leave, 20 minutes is enough I think, anyone left is clearly a viable target to be shelled right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 How many days do speculations say they have to last? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 7, 2022 Author Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 hour ago, TwinIon said: This is an interesting analysis of the Russian air force's poor showing from what seems to be a legit UK defense think tank. The whole thing is not very long, but what it boils down to is that they can't imagine that the Russians are holding anything in reserve or otherwise choosing not to establish more complete air superiority and that instead the Russians are simply incapable of doing so. Given the aircraft they have in the numbers they have them, you'd expect the Russians to easily establish air superiority over all of Ukraine, but that simply hasn't happened. They point out that Russian pilots get fewer flight ours per year than their western counterparts, when they do fly they do so in far less demanding conditions, and they have far less comprehensive simulators. So the whole Russian Air Force is simply incapable of organizing complex air operations at the scale required. While this is simply an informed guess and far from a definitive analysis, it's interesting speculation, and not something I'd have considered before the war. At the very least it appears that they have basically no precise or guided munitions. They are literally risking their planes to do low runs with dumb bombs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokra Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 13 hours ago, Jason said: I think the local Costco gas station jumped directly from $4.35 to $5.05. It's not even the cheapest gas station in its vicinity right now, which I don't think I've seen before. The cheapest near me is $5. 8 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: *laughs in Prius* 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CitizenVectron Posted March 7, 2022 Author Share Posted March 7, 2022 Thread on US current assessment: tl;dr: Russia has committed 100% of invasion troops No signs of any additional troops/reserves moving towards Ukraine So...how does Russia plan to take and hold the country? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 7, 2022 Author Share Posted March 7, 2022 More info on the purported "NATO" laptop the Russians "found" in "Ukraine." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 5 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: This conflict has illustrated two things very clearly to me: (1) The age of the armored warfare is probably/definitely dead and buried due to light infantry carrying MANPATS. (2) The age of helicopter-borne air assault warfare is probably/definitely dead and buried due to light infantry carrying MANPADS. In essence, the light infantryman has essentially reclaimed their role as the primary battlefield element. Ehhhh, active protection systems will probably shore up a lot of this, and are probably going to receive way more funding, and while supposedly Russia has them installed on their tanks but like everything else they probably just don't work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 18 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Thread on US current assessment: tl;dr: Russia has committed 100% of invasion troops No signs of any additional troops/reserves moving towards Ukraine So...how does Russia plan to take and hold the country? It's like just like a game. Once they plant their flag in Kyiv, the city and it's surrounding areas fall under Russian control and they can then take command of the Ukrainian forces from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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