Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Seems bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 3 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Very cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 "Declaration of war against the whole of Europe." Very strong words from Zelensky. It won't, but maybe it should, be a casus belli for neighboring NATO nations to intervene, at least in/around Chernobyl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: "Declaration of war against the whole of Europe." Very strong words from Zelensky. It won't, but maybe it should, be a casus belli for neighboring NATO nations to intervene, at least in/around Chernobyl. I'm generally deferential to Ze, but this one's a bit much on the rhetoric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 39 minutes ago, Uaarkson said: Feels like all of this could spiral into something bigger pretty easily. Thank Christ Biden, and not Trump, is president. I fear for what will happen when/if Trump wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 I wonder if purposefully dislodging the nuclear waste there could give a sense of nuclear fallout without needing to drop a nuke. But that’s the dumbest idea I’ve heard of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Just now, Comet said: I wonder if purposefully dislodging the nuclear waste there could give a sense of nuclear fallout without needing to drop a nuke. But that’s the dumbest idea I’ve heard of. I doubt they have that as an objective. Probably just there because it's an unexpected path of advance and having CBRN defense allows you to fight and move through that area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 52 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Remember him? Alexander Vindman Files Suit Against Donald Trump, Rudy Giuliani Over Ukraine Impeachment Affair WWW.ESQUIRE.COM He also went out of his way to link his case to the situation with the January 6 commission. He's the actor on Curb's latest season! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 43 minutes ago, Uaarkson said: Feels like all of this could spiral into something bigger pretty easily. Thank Christ Biden, and not Trump, is president. Trump would invade Canada and side with Russia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Let's all feel better by watching this Ukrainian granny shout right into a Russian soldier's face: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CayceG Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 As I predicted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 24, 2022 Author Share Posted February 24, 2022 With the way that Ukraine's population has become more and more anti-Russian over the last twenty years though...does Russia not expect popular uprisings against stooge governments in the future? Or are they I guess just prepared to help the new government massively crack down in horrible ways? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: With the way that Ukraine's population has become more and more anti-Russian over the last twenty years though...does Russia not expect popular uprisings against stooge governments in the future? Or are they I guess just prepared to help the new government massively crack down in horrible ways? I'm sure Russia doesn't care which way they crack down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 hour ago, thewhyteboar said: Republicans rending their garments over how Putin feels emboldened by Biden, meanwhile Vlad's approval numbers are good enough to win him primaries in about 70% of Red country nowadays..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 24, 2022 Author Share Posted February 24, 2022 For anyone who wants to see the speech with subtitles, this was Zelenskyy's message to Russian people last night about their government's invasion: Zelensky speech STREAMABLE.COM Watch "Zelensky speech" on Streamable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Repeating a lot of what has already been said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 A disgusting disgrace. I don't have anything informed to say but just feel really disgusted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bloodporne Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Just now, CitizenVectron said: Says someone who has never experienced war in her backyard of course. Real tough there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 24, 2022 Author Share Posted February 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, Comet said: Repeating a lot of what has already been said: Yeah...while Russia is vastly more powerful than Ukraine, this isn't USA vs Iraq. Nor is Ukraine currently ruled by a dictator hated by many in his own country. The Ukrainian people have basically solidified a national identity over the last 30 years, and while they aren't anywhere near as strong as Russia, the power differential is perhaps not as large as Putin thought. I mean, it all depends on Russia goals, as well. If they wanted to just flatten Ukraine as they rolled in then nothing could stop them. If they are intent on holding some of the country after (and doing this with as little damage as possible) then it's going to be much harder. Also, Putin might imagine that Ukrainian resistance fades when Kyiv falls, but I am not so sure. Perhaps in some areas. But west of the Dnieper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Shoulda parked a bunch of Patriot batteries on the border in Poland with the keys in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jwheel86 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Question, should NATO Response Force be activated? I'm leaning towards yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 24, 2022 Author Share Posted February 24, 2022 I would imagine heading to the airport they captured north of the city, to land and disembark troops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Just now, Jwheel86 said: Question, should NATO Response Force be activated? I'm leaning towards yes. They should have been activated weeks ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 24, 2022 Author Share Posted February 24, 2022 Apparently Boris Johnson is talking about pushing Russia from SWIFT? Didn't Putin say that ejection from SWIFT would be seen as an act of war? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chris- Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: The next post: Surely Russian military intelligence isn’t that naive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Chris- said: The next post: Surely Russian military intelligence isn’t that naive. I wonder if Ukraine still has the capability to shoot down these aircraft at this point? Surely, Russia hasn't destroyed all of Ukraine's anti-air defense systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Just now, mclumber1 said: I wonder if Ukraine still has the capability to shoot down these aircraft at this point? Surely, Russia hasn't destroyed all of Ukraine's anti-air defense systems. Maybe MANPADS near the airport as they come in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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