mclumber1 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Are those Amphibs in the Black Sea, or are they already in the Sea of Azov? If they are still in the Black Sea, I would argue they wouldn't be used for an assault on Mariupol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: Are those Amphibs in the Black Sea, or are they already in the Sea of Azov? If they are still in the Black Sea, I would argue they wouldn't be used for an assault on Mariupol. A portion of them moved into the Sea of Azov. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 We're probably almost there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Imran Khan was a star cricketer prior to becoming a politician. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 A new world order is forming, for sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Imran Khan was a star cricketer prior to becoming a politician. President Aaron Rodgers coming up 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 We literally just had a reality tv “star” become president 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 23, 2022 Author Share Posted February 23, 2022 About the saboteurs in Crimea, a Ukrainian minister tweeted only hours ago about a chemical plant/factory in Crimea had a shift evacuated, and Ukraine suspects Russia will use it as a false flag (blow up part of the plant once everyone is gone, etc). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5timechamp Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 21 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: We literally just had a reality tv “star” become president hes waiting in the wings.. his next presidency is tied into this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 1 hour ago, CitizenVectron said: Eastern Europe has such an...ominous colour palette compared to North America. You can't really understand unless you've been there. Everything (and I mean EVERYTHING) is just slightly different. Oh, you think the trees will be green? NO, they are NEAR-green. You think concrete will be grey? NO, it's somehow a little bit off, too. Maybe @CayceG can comment more, but it's like entering an alternate universe where everything is just slightly more drab. It looks like Dallas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 1 hour ago, CayceG said: A portion of them moved into the Sea of Azov. I doubt they'll do a landing, most likely just a show of force to keep some Ukrainian units on the coast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 23, 2022 Author Share Posted February 23, 2022 Thanks to map apps we can see potential routes of invasion: Similar "jam" on the Ukrainian/Crimean border. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 27 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said: I doubt they'll do a landing, most likely just a show of force to keep some Ukrainian units on the coast. I honestly do feel similarly about the forces deployed in Belarus which are intended to threaten (but not actually advance into) Kyiv. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 23, 2022 Author Share Posted February 23, 2022 Unconfirmed reports that cell networks are now out in Donetsk. Kharkiv and Dnipro airports have been closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 17 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Unconfirmed reports that cell networks are now out in Donetsk. Kharkiv and Dnipro airports have been closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 23, 2022 Author Share Posted February 23, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 23, 2022 Author Share Posted February 23, 2022 I can't even imagine being there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Kyiv should be safe for the time being, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 23, 2022 Author Share Posted February 23, 2022 Just now, Fizzzzle said: Kyiv should be safe for the time being, right? If Russia is only moving to take Donbas, then yes (unless Russia performs aerial/missiles strikes across the country). If they are going for total invasion, then Kyiv would be a target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Fizzzzle said: Kyiv should be safe for the time being, right? Airstrikes, cut off Ukrainian command and control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 16 minutes ago, Fizzzzle said: Kyiv should be safe for the time being, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 Zelensky just gave a very grave. solemn address - the first two minutes were in Ukrainian, the next nine minutes were in Russian. The speech can be found in this tweet thread: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 23, 2022 Author Share Posted February 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Zelensky just gave a very grave. solemn address - the first two minutes were in Ukrainian, the next nine minutes were in Russian. The speech can be found in this tweet thread: Wow. An incredibly powerful speech, directly targeted at the citizens of Russia to be shared by them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 At this point, I think it's reasonable to assume that any AWACS or JSTARS operating in the area has switched its transponder off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 So what all have we given Ukraine? Equipment wise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: So what all have we given Ukraine? Equipment wise Ammunition, anti-tank missiles, man-portable anti-air missiles, and probably personnel equipment like body armor, helmets, medical equipment, night vision goggles, and such. EDIT: Add to that, counter-artillery radars as well. These are genuinely defensive. And smaller drones they can use for remove surveillance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 24, 2022 Author Share Posted February 24, 2022 Two last-minute cargo planes from Turkey, under the wire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 24, 2022 Author Share Posted February 24, 2022 Little more specific, now: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 22 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: So what all have we given Ukraine? Equipment wise Russian doctrine makes their Battalions Tactical Groups very artillery heavy. US doctrine views artillery as something that enables maneuver, Russians are the opposite, maneuver enables artillery. With what we've given them, the Ukrainians will still be dead before tanks and infantry reach their line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 On 2/22/2022 at 7:29 PM, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Wonder when lopez is gonna come out as a trumper He's more of an anti anti trumper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Anathema- said: He's more of an anti anti trumper Also known as "I'm really the smart one" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Just now, Air_Delivery said: Also known as "I'm really the smart one" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 That seems like an indication that this is going to be a pretty significant event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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