SilentWorld Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 21 hours ago, PaladinSolo said: Well he’s saying the right things. Maybe it’s time for an outsider to run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Why do we care about this guy? He's Stormy Daniels' lawyer.... Anything else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 4 hours ago, johnny said: Why do we care about this guy? He's Stormy Daniels' lawyer.... Anything else? Seems to be a charismatic guy who's good at burning trump. Is there a guy you know more about that you care about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 This is what we deserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Honestly he sounds just like a typical politician, probably not the crazy trump like candidate people are imagining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Joe Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Avenatti used a hooker to gain national prominence, but he's actually an extremely intelligent and educated man. I dont get the Trump comparisons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 I would not compare him to Trump at all, but I also would say he is unqualified for office (at that level). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 1 hour ago, CitizenVectron said: I would not compare him to Trump at all, but I also would say he is unqualified for office (at that level). He said that this morning that his only negative is him not ever holding public office before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 And he's never, to my knowledge, run any large organization. Administrative incompetence is on full display right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 On 8/11/2018 at 2:57 PM, CitizenVectron said: Is Avenatti more qualified than Trump? Absolutely. Are you goddamned kidding me? This is an area where the Imbecile beats this Guido Lawyer without a second thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentWorld Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: Are you goddamned kidding me? This is an area where the Imbecile beats this Guido Lawyer without a second thought. But why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, SilentWorld said: But why The Imbecile at least has something resembling experience with a large organization which is something the Guido Lawyer cannot say for himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 This is (nearly) free advertisement for him and his firm. That is what I choose to believe, otherwise this guy has an ego that might be Trumpian in nature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 I think Trump has dispelled the myth that running a large organization makes you qualified, lol. My understanding is most presidents put together teams that find candidates to run the various parts of government and vet them, the president typically takes their advice, but if you're an idiot who surrounds yourself with idiots you get idiots. I'd say having an understanding of how government works by having held office, which he also doesn't have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: I think Trump has dispelled the myth that running a large organization makes you qualified, lol. My understanding is most presidents put together teams that find candidates to run the various parts of government and vet them, the president typically takes their advice, but if you're an idiot who surrounds yourself with idiots you get idiots. I'd say having an understanding of how government works by having held office, which he also doesn't have. It doesn't make you qualified but it is very important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 25 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: The Imbecile at least has something resembling experience with a large organization which is something the Guido Lawyer cannot say for himself. True, but he has a FAR better education and was by all accounts a model law student. GWU has a fucking award named after him. I know you're going to say so what, but that at least makes him far more qualified than Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 What's he done since law school that merits him to be considered for the presidency? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 13 minutes ago, Jose said: True, but he has a FAR better education and was by all accounts a model law student. GWU has a fucking award named after him. I know you're going to say so what, but that at least makes him far more qualified than Trump. In what way? Seriously, tell me in what way does that make him "far more" qualified for the presidency? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Is anyone aside from Governors really qualified to hold the office of President? And even then, the Governor of Wyoming is a different sort of prepared to the Governor of California or NY. And add on to that the crushing weight of foreign responsibility that POTUS holds, and there's still little that counts as qualification in that realm. Trump's not qualified. He is less qualified than a normal CEO because the normal CEO chooses subordinates and works within frameworks of a board as opposed to Trump's kids and whatever rules he makes up. Avenatti isn't qualified either, even though his mind is sharp in the legal realm. Avenatti may have said all the right things in Iowa, but he's still a fame seeker and a loudmouth. And I can't believe we're seriously entertaining this. Just because Trump won doesn't mean we have to accept this as legitimate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Being an intelligent lawyer and pushing progressive policies makes someone more qualified than a guy who pushes bad economic policies such as Trump. Trump ran a business yet is significantly more scatterbrained and less organized than any president in decades. If Trump has proven anything, it's that someone becomes qualified if you get (or think you're getting) what you want, and most with shortcomings about him will line up behind him if that happens, just as we are seeing nearly complete support by Republicans behind Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Just now, SaysWho? said: Being an intelligent lawyer and pushing progressive policies makes someone more qualified than a guy who pushes bad economic policies such as Trump. Trump ran a business yet is significantly more scatterbrained and less organized than any president in decades. If Trump has proven anything, it's that someone becomes qualified if you get (or think you're getting) what you want, and most with shortcomings about him will line up behind him if that happens, just as we are seeing nearly complete support by Republicans behind Trump. I wouldn't say intelligence and progressive = qualified. I'm more in favor of it in general. Republicans are a cult of personality and Dems are way more divided in their loyalties. Dems aren't going to rally around one politician, no matter who they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, CayceG said: I wouldn't say intelligence and progressive = qualified. I'm more in favor of it in general. Republicans are a cult of personality and Dems are way more divided in their loyalties. Dems aren't going to rally around one politician, no matter who they are. Dems rallied behind Obama, giving him two easy election wins. They will rally despite always being underestimated even after they win big. I'm not saying he's the most qualified, but he's easily more qualified than Trump because anyone who pushes his policies is not qualified to be president at all, regardless of his experience doing stuff and running The Celebrity Apprentice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 I think we're saying different things with the same words. Being qualified is an objective thing. You have a list of qualities, or you don't. Supporting certain policies or not supporting policies is not a definition of "qualification" and is a subjective thing. You're using the term wrong, but I understand what you mean. I'm speaking in the objective sense though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Being "qualified" has absolutely nothing to do with one's personal moral, political, etc. assessment of policies or outcomes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 It's too bad Jerry Brown is too old. He turned California around, if you ignore all the fires from the water ocean being watered 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 The ability to read and write at a graduate level is a prerequisite needed to qualify to become President. Trump, despite going to good schools, cannot read or write at a graduate university level. Avenatti can. Thus, Avenatti is more technically qualified to be President than Trump is. Case closed. Neither should be President or run for President. But if this is Sophie's choice than yeah, I choose Avenatti. Or have people been asleep the last 2 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Trump went to the best schools unlike you Democrat crisis actor losers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: The ability to read and write at a graduate level is a prerequisite needed to qualify to become President. Trump, despite going to good schools, cannot read or write at a graduate university level. Avenatti can. Thus, Avenatti is more technically qualified to be President than Trump is. Case closed. Neither should be President or run for President. But if this is Sophie's choice than yeah, I choose Avenatti. Or have people been asleep the last 2 years? And if it’s a real Sophie’s Choice, that means the loser dies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Do you guys think Obama was qualified? He had served, what, one year of his first Senate term when he announced? What about Hillary when she first ran for the Senate? Gillibrand had served one House term when she was selected to replace Clinton. And Booker was only mayor before being a Senator, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Just now, Jason said: Do you guys think Obama was qualified? He had served, what, one year of his first Senate term when he announced? What about Hillary when she first ran for the Senate? Obama: more qualified due to previous experience in Illinois legislature Clinton: this is more difficult, but probably more qualified due to previous professional experience and "active" policy roles in Arkansas and White House Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: Obama: more qualified due to previous experience in Illinois legislature Clinton: this is more difficult, but probably more qualified due to previous professional experience and "active" policy roles in Arkansas and White House I edited in Gillibrand and Booker too. And you're saying Obama was more qualified than Avenatti is, but that's not answering whether or not you think he was qualified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 I would say "not qualified". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 1 minute ago, SFLUFAN said: I would say "not qualified". Hindsight is 20/20. Though I'm sure you thought he was unqualified before he won in 2008. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Just now, Greatoneshere said: Hindsight is 20/20. Though I'm sure you thought he was unqualified before he won in 2008. Of course I did. I didn't vote for him in the primary for that very reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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