Jason Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Jwheel86 said: No. The reconciliation bill needs to become law first. Anyone who thinks reconciliation gets passed if infrastructure goes first is delusional. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 28, 2021 Author Share Posted October 28, 2021 25 minutes ago, Jason said: Anyone who thinks reconciliation gets passed if infrastructure goes first is delusional. It's to give tmac a W before Tuesday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SuperSpreader Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Don't pass anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Medicare prescription drug negotiation provisions are out as well (unsurprisingly, unfortunately): Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Here's the "final" framework that will be announced at 11:30am: The House progressives are now very much the "wild card" for the chances of this framework passing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Here's the "final" framework that will be announced at 11:30am: The House progressives are now very much the "wild card" for the chances of this framework passing. There's plenty of good, but Paid Leave needs to be part of it. It's embarrassing that the civilized world has this and we can't even negotiate down to four fucking weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Pelosi has called for the infrastructure bill vote today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 23 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: There's plenty of good, but Paid Leave needs to be part of it. It's embarrassing that the civilized world has this and we can't even negotiate down to four fucking weeks. My wife has been on parental leave since last October, 3 months fully paid and the remaining months at about 1/3 pay. And daycare is also paid for by the government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 The countries without any paid national maternity leave: - United States of America - Marshall Islands - Federated States of Micronesia - Nauru - Palau - Papua New Guinea - Tonga Way to go, America! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 28, 2021 Author Share Posted October 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said: My wife has been on parental leave since last October, 3 months fully paid and the remaining months at about 1/3 pay. And daycare is also paid for by the government. My wife just started back at work today after 3 months. Fully unpaid, and we will be paying $300/week for daycare. With the CTC we could almost make it work where my wife would be full time stay at home but it's just not quite enough. The house leave plan is pretty garbage which is sad since the plans out there by gilibrand et al are actually good! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Don't pass anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: My wife just started back at work today after 3 months. Fully unpaid, and we will be paying $300/week for daycare. With the CTC we could almost make it work where my wife would be full time stay at home but it's just not quite enough. The house leave plan is pretty garbage which is sad since the plans out there by gilibrand et al are actually good! The way it works in Korea is the city government sends each family a monthly stipend of 300 bucks or so per kid. If we send a kid to daycare, the money goes to the daycare instead of us. We had to pay things like an entrance fee and smaller fees for parties and supplies and whatnot, but nothing monthly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Here's the "final" framework that will be announced at 11:30am: The House progressives are now very much the "wild card" for the chances of this framework passing. On the Revenue side: What didn't make the cut: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Senator Sailor Moon (Anime Party - AZ) has endorsed the framework. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 28 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: Don't pass anything. Hi GOP Congress 2017-2020. "If I don't get what I want, I won't pass anything" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 28, 2021 Author Share Posted October 28, 2021 Still a decent plan but let me know when the prime ministers sign off (manchinema) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 minute ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Still a decent plan but let me know when the prime ministers sign off (manchinema) One of them has (see my previous post). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 28, 2021 Author Share Posted October 28, 2021 Just now, mclumber1 said: Hi GOP Congress 2017-2020. "If I don't get what I want, I won't pass anything" A lot of left twitter and even some pundits simply don't remember how bad the gop was at passing anything when they ran congress. Tax cuts and judges! That's all they do well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 28, 2021 Author Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: One of them has (see my previous post). I'm curious what Barron von Coalfield has to say still Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kal-El814 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 What the fuck does the thread title mean 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Kal-El814 said: What the fuck does the thread title mean Yes. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 lololololol at Manchin saying he's been working in good faith 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 28, 2021 Author Share Posted October 28, 2021 a little more details. Need more details on the climate change and energy portion from some experts. And CTC for one year is goofy, preschool and child care for 6 years is ok and sets up an expiration in 2028/2029 rather during Biden term 2(or not? Exact timing I can't find) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: a little more details. Need more details on the climate change and energy portion from some experts. And CTC for one year is goofy, preschool and child care for 6 years is ok and sets up an expiration in 2028/2029 rather during Biden term 2(or not? Exact timing I can't find) That's good because it's something Dems can run on renewing and strengthening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Pelosi is currently meeting with the House progressives to "convince" them to not vote down the infrastructure bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 28, 2021 Author Share Posted October 28, 2021 this mother fucker is a big part of why there isn't rx drug negotiations and implicitly threatening to tank the bill over tax cuts for the rich 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 17 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: If this was a parliamentary system, this would be tantamount to a vote of "no confidence" in the Biden government. If this was a parliamentary system, the leader would be able to just say "Oh, sorry Sinema/Manchin, I am not going to allow you to run for the party next time. Byyyyyyyeee!" And then the party would be more homogenous in policy and objectives (and could get things done). 7 hours ago, SuperSpreader said: Don't pass anything At this point I am expecting the final result to be $1.25 trillion for a single cubic mile of poured concrete that will employ 10,000 ex-coal workers in West Virginia. And the land will be coincidentally owned (and bought from) a shell company owned by 75 members of the Senate. 1 hour ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: My wife just started back at work today after 3 months. Fully unpaid, and we will be paying $300/week for daycare. With the CTC we could almost make it work where my wife would be full time stay at home but it's just not quite enough. The house leave plan is pretty garbage which is sad since the plans out there by gilibrand et al are actually good! It's disgraceful. In Canada she'd get 55% of her previous salary for up to 12-18 months (and potentially topped up to 100% by her employer), and you'd get $570/mo for the kid from the government. And also you'd get to use any of that parental leave as well, if you wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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