Jason Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Target joins Costco in dropping coconut milk brand over forced monkey labor allegations ABC7NY.COM Target has dropped a coconut milk brand over allegations it has ties to forced monkey labor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Somehow, I had no idea forced monkey labor was a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 27, 2021 Author Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Uaarkson said: Somehow, I had no idea forced monkey labor was a thing. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 How is this worse compared to us using animals to plow are fields, carry heavy loads and other animal labor work even today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxEvil AshxX Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 14 minutes ago, Remarkableriots said: How is this worse compared to us using animals to plow are fields, carry heavy loads and other animal labor work even today? Cuz monkeys have people faces. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimpleG Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 19 minutes ago, Remarkableriots said: How is this worse compared to us using animals to plow are fields, carry heavy loads and other animal labor work even today? Monkeys' are seen as a higher intelligence being On a small scale it really no different then a hunting dog or using a hawk but this is large scale and the animals are not coming from a domesticated source ,these are ripped out of the jungle. It also sounds like they being severely mistreated, most not all people who use animals to help farm or to hunt typically dont abuse their animals, they are expensive as hell and a well treated animal works harder then a mistreated one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 10 Ways Slaves Will Work For You Today - Listverse LISTVERSE.COM Slavery came to an end in 1865, and the world never had to deal with the ugliness of forced labor ever again. Sadly, only part of that sentence is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 And this is how Planet of the Apes started. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 12 hours ago, Remarkableriots said: 10 Ways Slaves Will Work For You Today - Listverse LISTVERSE.COM Slavery came to an end in 1865, and the world never had to deal with the ugliness of forced labor ever again. Sadly, only part of that sentence is true. Why can’t both animal mistreatment and [human] labor abuses be bad and condemned? Your post seemingly infers we should only choose one to be upset about or that the alternative to monkeys being mistreated is slavery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 11 hours ago, SimpleG said: Monkeys' are seen as a higher intelligence being On a small scale it really no different then a hunting dog or using a hawk but this is large scale and the animals are not coming from a domesticated source ,these are ripped out of the jungle. It also sounds like they being severely mistreated, most not all people who use animals to help farm or to hunt typically dont abuse their animals, they are expensive as hell and a well treated animal works harder then a mistreated one. Its not the same as a hunting dog. Hounds live for following trails, even if they have never been trained. Same with Labs and retrieving. I would say its more akin to oxen or horses pulling carts and being used to plow, as said above. But even then workehorses (Clydesdales usually) were also bred to work. I don’t know, none of those things seem anywhere near as problematic as forced labor of monkees, but I also am sure my own prejudice is a part of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 15 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: Why can’t both animal mistreatment and [human] labor abuses be bad and condemned? Your post seemingly infers we should only choose one to be upset about or that the alternative to monkeys being mistreated is slavery. I think he was just inferring humans are terrible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 hour ago, BloodyHell said: I think he was just inferring humans are terrible Combined with his first post, I just don't get the red herring of that article regarding human slavery in a thread that's essentially about animal abuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 13 hours ago, Uaarkson said: Somehow, I had no idea forced monkey labor was a thing. If this wasn't a Simpsons episode the universe no longer makes any sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, Reputator said: If this wasn't a Simpsons episode the universe no longer makes any sense. I feel like it was an episode of American Dad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 8 hours ago, Spork3245 said: Why can’t both animal mistreatment and [human] labor abuses be bad and condemned? Your post seemingly infers we should only choose one to be upset about or that the alternative to monkeys being mistreated is slavery. Target and Cosco stopping the sale of one product while continuing to sell thousands of other items made by animal mistreatment and [human] labor abuses. Why pick one item to be upset about and ignore all the others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 SNL - Bathroom Monkey WWW.EBAUMSWORLD.COM I want the blue one. monkey hate coconut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 29 minutes ago, Remarkableriots said: Target and Cosco stopping the sale of one product while continuing to sell thousands of other items made by animal mistreatment and [human] labor abuses. Why pick one item to be upset about and ignore all the others? Better to ignore all of them, yeah? Great point. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 12 hours ago, Remarkableriots said: Target and Cosco stopping the sale of one product while continuing to sell thousands of other items made by animal mistreatment and [human] labor abuses. Why pick one item to be upset about and ignore all the others? Cool cool cool. Better to just not care about any of them, right? EDIT: lol, I didn’t even notice @Joe’s post above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 therock'd 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPCyric Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 This just seems like they are trying to earn good PR over allegations... Maybe instead they should take a stand against the slave labor in China. Boo hoo maybe some monkeys are being forced to climb a tree... meanwhile Nazi German I mean China is forcing an ethnic minority into concentration camps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 hours ago, DPCyric said: This just seems like they are trying to earn good PR over allegations... Maybe instead they should take a stand against the slave labor in China. Boo hoo maybe some monkeys are being forced to climb a tree... meanwhile Nazi German I mean China is forcing an ethnic minority into concentration camps. Yes, and tell me, what control do they have over china? So absurd to be upset about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, BloodyHell said: Yes, and tell me, what control do they have over china? So absurd to be upset about this. Wait, absurd to be upset about human rights violations in China? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, BloodyHell said: Yes, and tell me, what control do they have over china? So absurd to be upset about this. Nominally they're responsible for their supply chains. In reality, lol mass exploitation is the primary directive of capitalism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: Wait, absurd to be upset about human rights violations in China? No, absurd to be upset because Costco took a stand against one. There is nothing costco can do about china except for destroying their own business. These same people happily buy Nintendo products (myself included), while they DIRECTLY profit from chinese slave labor of Muslims. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, BloodyHell said: No, absurd to be upset because Costco took a stand against one. There is nothing costco can do about china except for destroying their own business. These same people happily buy Nintendo products (myself included), while they DIRECTLY profit from chinese slave labor of Muslims. Got it. Thanks for clarifying. I think there’s room to be upset about all of it without “what about X?!?!?” in all honesty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPCyric Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 hour ago, BloodyHell said: Yes, and tell me, what control do they have over china? So absurd to be upset about this. Well they have removed a product over allegations alone (from fucking PETA). Why not remove products with more substancive evidence? 53 minutes ago, BloodyHell said: No, absurd to be upset because Costco took a stand against one. There is nothing costco can do about china except for destroying their own business. These same people happily buy Nintendo products (myself included), while they DIRECTLY profit from chinese slave labor of Muslims. There is a list of companies directly profiting from Muslim slave labor they can stop carrying those products. My desire to buy any products from the companies on that list have severely diminished. This stand on potential slave monkey labor just seems rediculous with whats going on in China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, DPCyric said: There is a list of companies directly profiting from Muslim slave labor they can stop carrying those products. My desire to buy any products from the companies on that list have severely diminished. This stand on potential slave monkey labor just seems rediculous with whats going on in China. I'm fairly certain we can be outraged over all of these issues, all at once. No? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPCyric Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 37 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: I'm fairly certain we can be outraged over all of these issues, all at once. No? Doesn't appear that way from Costco and Target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, DPCyric said: Doesn't appear that way from Costco and Target. We're talking about ourselves, not them. Companies will do whatever is most beneficial for them first monetarily, then PR secondarily. Nothing else enters into their calculus most of the time. That's been true for as long as there's been companies/merchants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodporne Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 I feel dumber for having read this idiotic argument 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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