Joe Biden beats Donald Trump, officially making Trump a one-term twice impeached, twice popular-vote losing president

[Chris-]

Bernie on reparations: “No.”

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

2 hours ago, SaysWho? said:

Former Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper enters the arena

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[RedSoxFan9]

😂 

[CitizenVectron]

Trump would change his name to "Hickenpooper" and this would work with the 40% of Americans who are legally mentally handicapped.

[Scott]

Pete Buttigieg is far and away the most impressive candidate I've seen so far.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsrjkQt60vI

 

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

Thank Christ

 

[TheBladeRoden]

10 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

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Yeah, ask Obama if it works.

[Anathema-]

9 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

Thank Christ

 

 

 

[PaladinSolo]

Yeah shes been pretty adamant about saying she isn't running, only to have some clickbait article pop up cause someone she doesn't talk to anymore said "she might run!"

[osxmatt]

Prepping for 2020 like:

 

 

[Jason]

 

[SaysWho?]

Michael Bloomberg will not run for president: "I’m not running for president, but I am launching a new campaign: Beyond Carbon."

 

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So as I’ve thought about a possible presidential campaign, the choice before me has become clear. Should I devote the next two years to talking about my ideas and record, knowing that I might never win the Democratic nomination? Or should I spend the next two years doubling down on the work that I am already leading and funding, and that I know can produce real and beneficial results for the country, right now?

 

I’ve come to realize that I’m less interested in talking than doing. And I have concluded that, for now, the best way for me to help our country is by rolling up my sleeves and continuing to get work done.

 

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

14 hours ago, Anathema- said:

 

 

 

13 hours ago, PaladinSolo said:

Yeah shes been pretty adamant about saying she isn't running, only to have some clickbait article pop up cause someone she doesn't talk to anymore said "she might run!"

 

1 hour ago, Jason said:

 

 

[Jason]

Just now, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

 

 

 

 

Fuck #MAGAHaberman. 

[Joe]

@PaladinSolo That didn't take long! 

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

 

 

 

 

[Jwheel86]

Why does South Carolina have a say in the Democratic Primary? Delegate count per state and calendar position should be based how tight the prior election was (swing states get more delegates and go first, blow out states, win or lose, have less and go last).

[SilentWorld]

45 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said:

Why does South Carolina have a say in the Democratic Primary? Delegate count per state and calendar position should be based how tight the prior election was (swing states get more delegates and go first, blow out states, win or lose, have less and go last).

 

I could perhaps see the argument that a republican state should be deprioritized, but prioritizing swing states over democratic strongholds seems like a very bad idea. 

[Anathema-]

5 hours ago, Jwheel86 said:

Why does South Carolina have a say in the Democratic Primary? Delegate count per state and calendar position should be based how tight the prior election was (swing states get more delegates and go first, blow out states, win or lose, have less and go last).

 

Look at a map of where all the black people live in this country, you might be surprised.

[Anathema-]

9 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

 

 

 

 

lbh tho that’s a legit thing to gripe about

[RedSoxFan9]

 

got his ass

 

[Greatoneshere]

Calling Bernie Sanders either racist or sexist given his policy positions, his voting record, and the stories of his activism across 40 years of public service, is clearly just a smear campaign by the establishment politicians and establishment media. 

[Anathema-]

Nobody's calling Bernie specifically racist or sexist, just callous toward and ignorant of specific issues that the black community and women have and want to see addressed. Sometimes aggressively so. Especially as he wants to get credit for a general non-racist/non-sexist feeling without a track record of seriously fighting for either. 

[Signifyin(g)Monkey]

On 3/4/2019 at 11:05 AM, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

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I like Hickenlooper—wish he would have gotten in the game earlier.

 

Former governors have a pretty good track record in national elections, and being the guy in charge during the marijuana boom when A.) it’s still illegal in most states, and B.) people on both the left and right, and across all class boundaries, support legalization, might be more of a boon than one would think.  It lets him look less ‘establishment‘ than Clinton, but without having to claim the ‘socialist’ label, which Trump and Co. would use to alienate every last moderate voter in the electorate.  He’s also younger than Biden and still a relatively ‘fresh face’.

 

While I sympathize with much of Bernie and AOC’s agenda, and have a profound distaste for neoliberalism, I just don’t think enough moderate voters will turn out for a self-declared ‘socialist’ until maybe down the road a few more years when the millennials are the dominant voting demographic—and RBG won’t survive on the bench another four years.

 

 

 

 

[marioandsonic]

49 minutes ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said:

I like Hickenlooper—wish he would have gotten in the game earlier.

 

Former governors have a pretty good track record in national elections, and being the guy in charge during the marijuana boom when A.) it’s still illegal in most states, and B.) people on both the left and right, and across all class boundaries, support legalization, might be more of a boon than one would think.  It lets him look less ‘establishment‘ than Clinton, but without having to claim the ‘socialist’ label, which Trump and Co. would use to alienate every last moderate voter in the electorate.  He’s also younger than Biden and still a relatively ‘fresh face’.

 

While I sympathize with much of Bernie and AOC’s agenda, and have a profound distaste for neoliberalism, I just don’t think enough moderate voters will turn out for a self-declared ‘socialist’ until maybe down the road a few more years when the millennials are the dominant voting demographic—and RBG won’t survive on the bench another four years.

 

 

 

 

So basically, we're fucked.

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

56 minutes ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said:

I like Hickenlooper—wish he would have gotten in the game earlier.

 

Former governors have a pretty good track record in national elections, and being the guy in charge during the marijuana boom when A.) it’s still illegal in most states, and B.) people on both the left and right, and across all class boundaries, support legalization, might be more of a boon than one would think.  It lets him look less ‘establishment‘ than Clinton, but without having to claim the ‘socialist’ label, which Trump and Co. would use to alienate every last moderate voter in the electorate.  He’s also younger than Biden and still a relatively ‘fresh face’.

 

While I sympathize with much of Bernie and AOC’s agenda, and have a profound distaste for neoliberalism, I just don’t think enough moderate voters will turn out for a self-declared ‘socialist’ until maybe down the road a few more years when the millennials are the dominant voting demographic—and RBG won’t survive on the bench another four years.

 

 

 

 

I don't mind him, other than he's probably a little too close to oil and gas for me to take too seriously any proposals he has on climate change (by far the most pressing issue in this country). That said, his complete naive attitude toward Mitch is telling of how little he knows about the national political environment. 

 

 

I think if someone were to take many, if not most, of the platform of Bernie or AOC and just not fucking call themselves socialist they'd do great, especially this year.

[CitizenVectron]

44 minutes ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said:

 

 

Former governors have a pretty good track record in national elections,

 

 

 

I was curious so I looked into what previous jobs they had in government):

 

• 18 were House Reps
• 17 were Governors (16 state, 1 territorial - Taft)
• 16 were Senators
• 14 were Vice President
• 8 were Secretaries
• 5 had no electoral public service experience (Taylor, Grant, Hoover, Eisenhower, Trump...though 4 had been appointed to key positions)

 

Obviously there is overlap in that list. In terms of what they were doing in the year immediately before becoming President:

 

• 1 was doing nothing (Trump)
• 1 was in foreign service (Buchanan)
• 1 was in local government (Harrison)
• 1 was house rep (Garfield)
• 3 were in military (Taylor, Grant, Eisenhower)
• 3 were senator (Harding, Kennedy, Obama)
• 5 were cabinet members (Hoover, Madison, Monroe, Adams, Taft)
• 7 were governor (Hayes, Cleveland, McKinley, Wilson, F.D.Roosevelt, Clinton, G.W.Bush)
• 10 were out of office (Washington, Jackson, Polk, Pierce, Lincoln, Harrison, Cleveland, Nixon, Carter, Reagan)
• 13 were vice president (Adams, Jefferson, Van Buren, Tyler, Filmore, Johnson, Arthur, T.Roosevelt, Coolidge, Truman, Johnson, Ford, H.W.Bush)

[Greatoneshere]

3 hours ago, Anathema- said:

Nobody's calling Bernie specifically racist or sexist, just callous toward and ignorant of specific issues that the black community and women have and want to see addressed. Sometimes aggressively so. Especially as he wants to get credit for a general non-racist/non-sexist feeling without a track record of seriously fighting for either. 

 

Except he's chained himself to black women to help them and prevent them from being unjustly taken to jail, etc. etc. It's simply not true. Is he perfect at all times on every issue? Absolutely not, but he's not aggressively ignorant in any way I don't think. Or rather his actions speak louder than any miscommunicated words. 

[stepee]

Putting black women in chains seems pretty fucking racist if you ask me.

[Signifyin(g)Monkey]

Quote

I was curious so I looked into what previous jobs they had in government):

 

• 18 were House Reps
• 17 were Governors (16 state, 1 territorial - Taft)
• 16 were Senators
• 14 were Vice President
• 8 were Secretaries
• 5 had no electoral public service experience (Taylor, Grant, Hoover, Eisenhower, Trump...though 4 had been appointed to key positions)

 

Obviously there is overlap in that list. In terms of what they were doing in the year immediately before becoming President:

 

• 1 was doing nothing (Trump)
• 1 was in foreign service (Buchanan)
• 1 was in local government (Harrison)
• 1 was house rep (Garfield)
• 3 were in military (Taylor, Grant, Eisenhower)
• 3 were senator (Harding, Kennedy, Obama)
• 5 were cabinet members (Hoover, Madison, Monroe, Adams, Taft)
• 7 were governor (Hayes, Cleveland, McKinley, Wilson, F.D.Roosevelt, Clinton, G.W.Bush)
• 10 were out of office (Washington, Jackson, Polk, Pierce, Lincoln, Harrison, Cleveland, Nixon, Carter, Reagan)
• 13 were vice president (Adams, Jefferson, Van Buren, Tyler, Filmore, Johnson, Arthur, T.Roosevelt, Coolidge, Truman, Johnson, Ford, H.W.Bush)

 

In the postwar era, you have LBJ, Carter, Reagan, Clinton and both Bushes who were former governors—so six out of the 13 presidents.  Only 2 senators have made it—Obama and Kennedy.

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

2 minutes ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said:

In the postwar era, you have LBJ, Carter, Reagan, Clinton and both Bushes who were former governors—so six out of the 13 presidents.  Only 2 senators have made it—Obama and Kennedy.

George H. W. Bush was never a governor.

[Signifyin(g)Monkey]

17 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said:

George H. W. Bush was never a governor.

Duly corrected.  5 out of 13. Then Two senators, 4 VPs, 1 general, 1 orange businessman.  Unless I’ve missed something else.

[RedSoxFan9]

 

fascist rhetoric Joe Biden

[Greatoneshere]

1 hour ago, stepee said:

Putting black women in chains seems pretty fucking racist if you ask me.

 

Those cops were indeed pretty racist.

[Anathema-]

1 hour ago, Greatoneshere said:

 

Except he's chained himself to black women to help them and prevent them from being unjustly taken to jail, etc. etc. It's simply not true. Is he perfect at all times on every issue? Absolutely not, but he's not aggressively ignorant in any way I don't think. Or rather his actions speak louder than any miscommunicated words. 

 

That doesn’t change anything I said. Nobody’s accusing him of being racist, just a woefully unhelpful potential ally. Chaining himself to black women doesn’t amount to much when you’ve been a national lawmaker as long as he has. To say nothing of the fact that he dismisses activists if they don’t agree with him. The issues facing black America don’t get to be dictated by Bernie Sanders regardless of how much he’s like to.