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Joe Biden beats Donald Trump, officially making Trump a one-term twice impeached, twice popular-vote losing president


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I’ve voted in every election I could since turning 18 and I’ll be turning 35 in a few months. I don’t have any patience for people who give a pass to young folks for not showing up. There certainly aren’t worse conditions for young voters than black voters, yet consistently the turnout among black voters is significantly higher than young people.

 

One group cares more than the other, it is really that simple.

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Even with the overall increased turnout, younger voters showed up in proportion to their population share of the country on Super Tuesday, when usually they show up in far lesser numbers. There was just a significantly higher turnout for older voters in the primary. We’ve been over this pages and pages ago so this is the last I’m saying on this

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8 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

Even with the overall increased turnout, younger voters showed up in proportion to their population share of the country on Super Tuesday, when usually they show up in far lesser numbers. There was just a significantly higher turnout for older voters in the primary. We’ve been over this pages and pages ago so this is the last I’m saying on this

 

Yeah but the youth vote always tracks with the overall vote. That there were more older votes along with more youth votes is how turnout has been for decades.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Anathema- said:

 

Yeah but the youth vote always tracks with the overall vote. That there were more older votes along with more youth votes is how turnout has been for decades.

 

 

I’ve always read that tend of youth being highly motivated and inspired to bring change, and the elderly whipped up into fear of that change and going out to try and prevent change. 

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2 minutes ago, ThreePi said:

Bernie officially endorses Biden.

 

Bernie IS the establishment :shock: It all makes sense now! All jokes a side, he did it during a joint livestream with Biden. That was very big of him and signals to me that he's gonna do what he can to unite the party. Seems like Bernie will be a big part of Joe's campaign.

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Bernie's all-in, and so am I.

 

I have major doubts about Biden, and I do think if we lose, it'll be a hard way to learn not to doubt grassroots activists in 2024 once again.

 

But this isn't even close to 2016: Bernie lost bad, and he knows it, and he knows he has more of a chance to get something done with Biden than we ever will with Trump. 

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2 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said:

 

Bernie IS the establishment :shock: It all makes sense now! All jokes a side, he did it during a joint livestream with Biden. That was very big of him and signals to me that he's gonna do what he can to unite the party. Seems like Bernie will be a big part of Joe's campaign.

Despite his revolution rhetoric, he was closer to a sewer socialist or social democrat so this isn’t a big surprise

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1 hour ago, Emperor Diocletian II said:

I'm all but certain that Sanders cannot adequately articulate the differences between a "democratic socialist" and a "social democrat".

One label sounds radical and scary to the average Joe and Jane American, one does not.  From what I’ve seen from self-proclaimed Democratic socialists, there’s not much else that’s different.

 

Which is why it still kinda boggles the mind that Sanders called himself a democratic socialist in the first place, unless he was hoping that the term’s ‘edginess’ would help lend him some extra anti-establishment cred.

 

One part of me thinks that if you take away the ‘socialist’ label, Sanders easily wins the nom.  Another part of me thinks that if he hadn’t used the label, he’d never have been competitive to begin with, because it’s possible  a lot of people voted for him largely because it felt cool to vote for a scary-sounding ‘socialist’ rather than just a normal-sounding ‘Democrat’.  I don’t think either part will ever agree on what the truth is...it’s not like we’ll ever know for sure anyway.

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4 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said:

 

Almost certainly because Sanders stayed in until Wisconsin, driving up the Dem turnout.

 

 

A few pages back I posted a tweet by a female version of Ana who was blaming Bernie for getting people to risk their health by staying in, as though the presidential primary was the only thing Wisconsin was voting on.

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9 hours ago, marioandsonic said:

 

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At the same time, the 2016 election taught me I cant trust anything anymore.

 

9 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said:

Oh there's still a good chance Trump gets re-elected but I'm a little more optimistic these days.

Just to cheer you up, one of my favorite macro blogs has a post predicting a huge blue surge that sweeps Trump from office and possibly gives the Democrats 55 senate seats.  And their calls have been very spot on, including their prediction that Trump would win in 2016, albeit while losing the popular vote.

 

I’m not anywhere near that bullish—I just don’t see a candidate as weak as Biden winning the general against an incumbent—but there *are* cases for optimism out there.

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