Guest Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 I’ve voted in every election I could since turning 18 and I’ll be turning 35 in a few months. I don’t have any patience for people who give a pass to young folks for not showing up. There certainly aren’t worse conditions for young voters than black voters, yet consistently the turnout among black voters is significantly higher than young people. One group cares more than the other, it is really that simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Even with the overall increased turnout, younger voters showed up in proportion to their population share of the country on Super Tuesday, when usually they show up in far lesser numbers. There was just a significantly higher turnout for older voters in the primary. We’ve been over this pages and pages ago so this is the last I’m saying on this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 8 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Even with the overall increased turnout, younger voters showed up in proportion to their population share of the country on Super Tuesday, when usually they show up in far lesser numbers. There was just a significantly higher turnout for older voters in the primary. We’ve been over this pages and pages ago so this is the last I’m saying on this Yeah but the youth vote always tracks with the overall vote. That there were more older votes along with more youth votes is how turnout has been for decades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Anathema- said: Yeah but the youth vote always tracks with the overall vote. That there were more older votes along with more youth votes is how turnout has been for decades. I’ve always read that tend of youth being highly motivated and inspired to bring change, and the elderly whipped up into fear of that change and going out to try and prevent change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kal-El814 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 26 minutes ago, Remarkableriots said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Remarkableriots said: You can almost hear the desperation... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 5 hours ago, Remarkableriots said: People on this board really support a rapist lmfao. Clowns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 So in summary, we're fucked, aren't we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 12 hours ago, marioandsonic said: So in summary, we're fucked, aren't we? Yup! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePi Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Bernie officially endorses Biden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, ThreePi said: Bernie officially endorses Biden. Bernie IS the establishment It all makes sense now! All jokes a side, he did it during a joint livestream with Biden. That was very big of him and signals to me that he's gonna do what he can to unite the party. Seems like Bernie will be a big part of Joe's campaign. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Some democrats (not naming names, but we know what’s up) will still want to blame Bernie when Biden loses instead of accepting that their candidate is, once again, ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted April 13, 2020 Author Share Posted April 13, 2020 Bernie's all-in, and so am I. I have major doubts about Biden, and I do think if we lose, it'll be a hard way to learn not to doubt grassroots activists in 2024 once again. But this isn't even close to 2016: Bernie lost bad, and he knows it, and he knows he has more of a chance to get something done with Biden than we ever will with Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 2 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said: Bernie IS the establishment It all makes sense now! All jokes a side, he did it during a joint livestream with Biden. That was very big of him and signals to me that he's gonna do what he can to unite the party. Seems like Bernie will be a big part of Joe's campaign. Despite his revolution rhetoric, he was closer to a sewer socialist or social democrat so this isn’t a big surprise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 24 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Despite his revolution rhetoric, he was closer to a sewer socialist or social democrat so this isn’t a big surprise I'm all but certain that Sanders cannot adequately articulate the differences between a "democratic socialist" and a "social democrat". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 47 minutes ago, Emperor Diocletian II said: I'm all but certain that Sanders cannot adequately articulate the differences between a "democratic socialist" and a "social democrat". In the American context it is a distinction without a difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Emperor Diocletian II said: I'm all but certain that Sanders cannot adequately articulate the differences between a "democratic socialist" and a "social democrat". One label sounds radical and scary to the average Joe and Jane American, one does not. From what I’ve seen from self-proclaimed Democratic socialists, there’s not much else that’s different. Which is why it still kinda boggles the mind that Sanders called himself a democratic socialist in the first place, unless he was hoping that the term’s ‘edginess’ would help lend him some extra anti-establishment cred. One part of me thinks that if you take away the ‘socialist’ label, Sanders easily wins the nom. Another part of me thinks that if he hadn’t used the label, he’d never have been competitive to begin with, because it’s possible a lot of people voted for him largely because it felt cool to vote for a scary-sounding ‘socialist’ rather than just a normal-sounding ‘Democrat’. I don’t think either part will ever agree on what the truth is...it’s not like we’ll ever know for sure anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 If Bernie was this good a sport in losing in 2016 he might have been the nominee now. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 38 minutes ago, Anathema- said: If Bernie was this good a sport in losing in 2016 he might have been the nominee now. Mad lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Almost certainly because Sanders stayed in until Wisconsin, driving up the Dem turnout. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 3 hours ago, Emperor Diocletian II said: I'm all but certain that Sanders cannot adequately articulate the differences between a "democratic socialist" and a "social democrat". Might as well explain the difference between a goth and emo kid 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Almost certainly because Sanders stayed in until Wisconsin, driving up the Dem turnout. A few pages back I posted a tweet by a female version of Ana who was blaming Bernie for getting people to risk their health by staying in, as though the presidential primary was the only thing Wisconsin was voting on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 51 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: Might as well explain the difference between a goth and emo kid One likes shitty music. The other likes shitty music. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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marioandsonic Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 18 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: I really, really, REALLY want to believe this is a good sign for November. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: I really, really, REALLY want to believe this is a good sign for November. I think it will be my friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Spork3245 said: Might as well explain the difference between a goth and emo kid Emo kids love Jesus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 33 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: I really, really, REALLY want to believe this is a good sign for November. This is a very good sign for November! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 26 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: I think it will be my friend. At the same time, the 2016 election taught me I cant trust anything anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: At the same time, the 2016 election taught me I cant trust anything anymore. Oh there's still a good chance Trump gets re-elected but I'm a little more optimistic these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 9 hours ago, marioandsonic said: At the same time, the 2016 election taught me I cant trust anything anymore. 9 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said: Oh there's still a good chance Trump gets re-elected but I'm a little more optimistic these days. Just to cheer you up, one of my favorite macro blogs has a post predicting a huge blue surge that sweeps Trump from office and possibly gives the Democrats 55 senate seats. And their calls have been very spot on, including their prediction that Trump would win in 2016, albeit while losing the popular vote. I’m not anywhere near that bullish—I just don’t see a candidate as weak as Biden winning the general against an incumbent—but there *are* cases for optimism out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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