Scott Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 I suppose it could be Tammy Baldwin. I have no strong feelings about her versus Witmer. Klobuchar was mentioned earlier in the thread; my point was I’d rather Biden try to use his VP pick to carry a state that’s more competitive than Minnesota (not that MN is a lock). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted March 17, 2020 Author Share Posted March 17, 2020 Ohio postpones its primary today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 8 hours ago, GeneticBlueprint said: Biden brings everybody except young people who don't turnout anyways. Midwest seems to be key to 270. Might as well lock it in. Warren would be a good choice for tossing a bone to the Bernie contingent and as said above Biden already delivers the midwest. 8 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said: I'm not sure Amy adds more to Biden's appeal to Mid-western voters. It's more important, I think, that Biden picks someone that non-Bernie-brainwashed Progressives can get excited about. The only reason I think Warren shouldn't be the pick is that you would have both candidates at the top of the ticket in their 70's. Otherwise its a no-brainer that Warren should be the pick. The main reason not to pick Warren is that she'd probably be better as Senate Majority Leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jason said: Warren would be a good choice for tossing a bone to the Bernie contingent and as said above Biden already delivers the midwest. The main reason not to pick Warren is that she'd probably be better as Senate Majority Leader. Dems are recapturing the Senate? And if so would she be in line to be the Majority Leader? Also picking Warren wouldn't appease Bernie's minions... they already hate her and blame her for him losing a lot of states on super Tuesday. Her not immediately endorsing him has added to that disdain as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted March 17, 2020 Author Share Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, skillzdadirecta said: Dems are recapturing the Senate? And if so would she be in line to be the Majority Leader? Majority or minority leader, but they certainly have a shot at the Senate as the map is way better than 2018, to which the Democratic Blue Wave helped stem losses to about two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 I would love to see Warren in charge of the Senate. Schumer is useless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 hour ago, skillzdadirecta said: Dems are recapturing the Senate? And if so would she be in line to be the Majority Leader? Also picking Warren wouldn't appease Bernie's minions... they already hate her and blame her for him losing a lot of states on super Tuesday. Her not immediately endorsing him has added to that disdain as well. If they win the presidency, they are probably taking the Senate as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted March 17, 2020 Author Share Posted March 17, 2020 Biden wins Washington State Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 I'm really curious about turnout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted March 17, 2020 Author Share Posted March 17, 2020 I'm thinking today may be the last primary we see in a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 So do these postponements favor Bernie, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: So do these postponements favor Bernie, right? Only if he survives Coronavirus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 23 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: So do these postponements favor Bernie, right? From what I understand he didn't really take advantage of it in the last debate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 I'm thinking that the less actual primary losses that he suffers, the less pressure there is for him to drop out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 I think a pandemic helps the guy who is pounding the desk about universal single payer health care with no out of pocket costs, universal paid leave, etc. The question for me is does Biden’s appeal as a return to Obama era “stability” and “normalcy” outweigh the policy wins Sanders has here? It’s the closest thing to an October Surprise as you’ll get in a primary, so it will be interesting to see how it shakes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 4 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said: I'm thinking that the less actual primary losses that he suffers, the less pressure there is for him to drop out. And he will be able to keep pretending that victory is within reach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, Anathema- said: And he will be able to keep pretending that victory is within reach. And you will get to stay salty even though your guy is winning. Kind of similar to how Trump fans act. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 minute ago, CitizenVectron said: And you will get to stay salty even though your guy is winning. Kind of similar to how Trump fans act. I must say that in this scenario, Biden and his voters aren't the ones exhibiting similarities to Trump and his folks... just sayin' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: And you will get to stay salty even though your guy is winning. Kind of similar to how Trump fans act. Biden is my guy? That's quite something to say to someone you're accusing of holding a grudge. Sounds more like you're reflexively defending Sanders by sidestepping the facts and hoping to make the discussion about me rather than the failures of one Bernie Sanders' campaign. lol .. Biden is my guy. Idiotic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Tribalism is a hell of a drug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbobo Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 at this point it is worth staying in because of the corona virus and the fact that Biden is almost 80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, elbobo said: at this point it is worth staying in because of the corona virus and the fact that Biden is almost 80 Ummmm... Bernie IS older than Biden and has already had a heart attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 minute ago, elbobo said: at this point it is worth staying in because of the corona virus and the fact that Biden is almost 80 Okay #1) gross, #2) Bernie is older and has worse comorbidities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Let's all refocus, this is the enemy of good: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, Anathema- said: Tribalism is a hell of a drug. Dude, I am Canadian and have openly said that I support whoever is the nominee. All are better than Trump, and all are worse than any similar leader in Canada. If there were a thread about Street Fighter II and someone said "haha, you know what, I am high and Guile kind of looks like Bernie Sanders," you'd pop in to rant about how he needs to drop out. Just give it up. We know Sanders is going to lose. Some think he should drop out now because it somehow strengthens Biden in the general (I don't see this as true) and others say he should stay in because he might force Biden to shift left to counter him (I don't see this as true, either). 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Just now, CitizenVectron said: Dude, I am Canadian and have openly said that I support whoever is the nominee. All are better than Trump, and all are worse than any similar leader in Canada. If there were a thread about Street Fighter II and someone said "haha, you know what, I am high and Guile kind of looks like Bernie Sanders," you'd pop in to rant about how he needs to drop out. Just give it up. We know Sanders is going to lose. Some think he should drop out now because it somehow strengthens Biden in the general (I don't see this as true) and others say he should stay in because he might force Biden to shift left to counter him (I don't see this as true, either). You think I forgot you're Canadian? You don't have to be eligible to vote for Sanders to drink his kool-aid and if this is your reaction to my relatively mild statement, especially knee-jerking and saying that Biden is "my guy," then I recommend getting your stomach pumped. You're being totally absurd right now. Sanders spent more time in 2016 running a losing race that he pretended was winnable. He's committing to staying in the 2020 race already. These are facts. But the suggestion that he's doing it cynically is beyond the pale? That the most appropriate reaction for you was to attack me at length rather than address the facts? FOH. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Like Bernie Sanders would NEVER do something cynical and self serving. Give me a fucking break. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, Anathema- said: Like Bernie Sanders would NEVER do something cynical and self serving. Give me a fucking break. I mean, this is pretty much his whole reputation in the Senate amongst his peers. It's why he has a very thin record of actually getting shit done over the course of his 30 plus year career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted March 17, 2020 Author Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 hour ago, CitizenVectron said: If there were a thread about Street Fighter II and someone said "haha, you know what, I am high and Guile kind of looks like Bernie Sanders," you'd pop in to rant about how he needs to drop out. lol, I did. So anyway, I find it ironic that, with the health care system getting swamped in the next few weeks and the amount of people who could have their insurance interrupted or lose it entirely, his message is more important than ever, yet because of how dominating this story is, it's not getting as much attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 All of the Bernie youts decided to hit the beach instead of hitting the polls in Florida: https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/state/florida?xid=ec_flip_hz_florida_d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 Biden wins Florida. Also, Illinois turnout is WAY down: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Just now, mclumber1 said: All of the Bernie youts decided to hit the beach instead of hitting the polls in Florida: https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/state/florida?xid=ec_flip_hz_florida_d Why/How is Tulsi still in this?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 Bloomberg is second in Palm Beach County Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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