Chris- Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Bernie on reparations: “No.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 2 hours ago, SaysWho? said: Former Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper enters the arena Quoted tweet: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Trump would change his name to "Hickenpooper" and this would work with the 40% of Americans who are legally mentally handicapped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Pete Buttigieg is far and away the most impressive candidate I've seen so far. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsrjkQt60vI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Thank Christ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBladeRoden Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 10 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Quoted tweet: Yeah, ask Obama if it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 9 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Thank Christ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Yeah shes been pretty adamant about saying she isn't running, only to have some clickbait article pop up cause someone she doesn't talk to anymore said "she might run!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Prepping for 2020 like: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted March 6, 2019 Author Share Posted March 6, 2019 Michael Bloomberg will not run for president: "I’m not running for president, but I am launching a new campaign: Beyond Carbon." Quote So as I’ve thought about a possible presidential campaign, the choice before me has become clear. Should I devote the next two years to talking about my ideas and record, knowing that I might never win the Democratic nomination? Or should I spend the next two years doubling down on the work that I am already leading and funding, and that I know can produce real and beneficial results for the country, right now? I’ve come to realize that I’m less interested in talking than doing. And I have concluded that, for now, the best way for me to help our country is by rolling up my sleeves and continuing to get work done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 14 hours ago, Anathema- said: 13 hours ago, PaladinSolo said: Yeah shes been pretty adamant about saying she isn't running, only to have some clickbait article pop up cause someone she doesn't talk to anymore said "she might run!" 1 hour ago, Jason said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Just now, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Fuck #MAGAHaberman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 @PaladinSolo That didn't take long! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jwheel86 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Why does South Carolina have a say in the Democratic Primary? Delegate count per state and calendar position should be based how tight the prior election was (swing states get more delegates and go first, blow out states, win or lose, have less and go last). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentWorld Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 45 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said: Why does South Carolina have a say in the Democratic Primary? Delegate count per state and calendar position should be based how tight the prior election was (swing states get more delegates and go first, blow out states, win or lose, have less and go last). I could perhaps see the argument that a republican state should be deprioritized, but prioritizing swing states over democratic strongholds seems like a very bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 5 hours ago, Jwheel86 said: Why does South Carolina have a say in the Democratic Primary? Delegate count per state and calendar position should be based how tight the prior election was (swing states get more delegates and go first, blow out states, win or lose, have less and go last). Look at a map of where all the black people live in this country, you might be surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 9 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: lbh tho that’s a legit thing to gripe about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 got his ass 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Calling Bernie Sanders either racist or sexist given his policy positions, his voting record, and the stories of his activism across 40 years of public service, is clearly just a smear campaign by the establishment politicians and establishment media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Nobody's calling Bernie specifically racist or sexist, just callous toward and ignorant of specific issues that the black community and women have and want to see addressed. Sometimes aggressively so. Especially as he wants to get credit for a general non-racist/non-sexist feeling without a track record of seriously fighting for either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 On 3/4/2019 at 11:05 AM, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Quoted tweet: I like Hickenlooper—wish he would have gotten in the game earlier. Former governors have a pretty good track record in national elections, and being the guy in charge during the marijuana boom when A.) it’s still illegal in most states, and B.) people on both the left and right, and across all class boundaries, support legalization, might be more of a boon than one would think. It lets him look less ‘establishment‘ than Clinton, but without having to claim the ‘socialist’ label, which Trump and Co. would use to alienate every last moderate voter in the electorate. He’s also younger than Biden and still a relatively ‘fresh face’. While I sympathize with much of Bernie and AOC’s agenda, and have a profound distaste for neoliberalism, I just don’t think enough moderate voters will turn out for a self-declared ‘socialist’ until maybe down the road a few more years when the millennials are the dominant voting demographic—and RBG won’t survive on the bench another four years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 49 minutes ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said: I like Hickenlooper—wish he would have gotten in the game earlier. Former governors have a pretty good track record in national elections, and being the guy in charge during the marijuana boom when A.) it’s still illegal in most states, and B.) people on both the left and right, and across all class boundaries, support legalization, might be more of a boon than one would think. It lets him look less ‘establishment‘ than Clinton, but without having to claim the ‘socialist’ label, which Trump and Co. would use to alienate every last moderate voter in the electorate. He’s also younger than Biden and still a relatively ‘fresh face’. While I sympathize with much of Bernie and AOC’s agenda, and have a profound distaste for neoliberalism, I just don’t think enough moderate voters will turn out for a self-declared ‘socialist’ until maybe down the road a few more years when the millennials are the dominant voting demographic—and RBG won’t survive on the bench another four years. So basically, we're fucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 56 minutes ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said: I like Hickenlooper—wish he would have gotten in the game earlier. Former governors have a pretty good track record in national elections, and being the guy in charge during the marijuana boom when A.) it’s still illegal in most states, and B.) people on both the left and right, and across all class boundaries, support legalization, might be more of a boon than one would think. It lets him look less ‘establishment‘ than Clinton, but without having to claim the ‘socialist’ label, which Trump and Co. would use to alienate every last moderate voter in the electorate. He’s also younger than Biden and still a relatively ‘fresh face’. While I sympathize with much of Bernie and AOC’s agenda, and have a profound distaste for neoliberalism, I just don’t think enough moderate voters will turn out for a self-declared ‘socialist’ until maybe down the road a few more years when the millennials are the dominant voting demographic—and RBG won’t survive on the bench another four years. I don't mind him, other than he's probably a little too close to oil and gas for me to take too seriously any proposals he has on climate change (by far the most pressing issue in this country). That said, his complete naive attitude toward Mitch is telling of how little he knows about the national political environment. I think if someone were to take many, if not most, of the platform of Bernie or AOC and just not fucking call themselves socialist they'd do great, especially this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 44 minutes ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said: Former governors have a pretty good track record in national elections, I was curious so I looked into what previous jobs they had in government): 18 were House Reps 17 were Governors (16 state, 1 territorial - Taft) 16 were Senators 14 were Vice President 8 were Secretaries 5 had no electoral public service experience (Taylor, Grant, Hoover, Eisenhower, Trump...though 4 had been appointed to key positions) Obviously there is overlap in that list. In terms of what they were doing in the year immediately before becoming President: 1 was doing nothing (Trump) 1 was in foreign service (Buchanan) 1 was in local government (Harrison) 1 was house rep (Garfield) 3 were in military (Taylor, Grant, Eisenhower) 3 were senator (Harding, Kennedy, Obama) 5 were cabinet members (Hoover, Madison, Monroe, Adams, Taft) 7 were governor (Hayes, Cleveland, McKinley, Wilson, F.D.Roosevelt, Clinton, G.W.Bush) 10 were out of office (Washington, Jackson, Polk, Pierce, Lincoln, Harrison, Cleveland, Nixon, Carter, Reagan) 13 were vice president (Adams, Jefferson, Van Buren, Tyler, Filmore, Johnson, Arthur, T.Roosevelt, Coolidge, Truman, Johnson, Ford, H.W.Bush) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 3 hours ago, Anathema- said: Nobody's calling Bernie specifically racist or sexist, just callous toward and ignorant of specific issues that the black community and women have and want to see addressed. Sometimes aggressively so. Especially as he wants to get credit for a general non-racist/non-sexist feeling without a track record of seriously fighting for either. Except he's chained himself to black women to help them and prevent them from being unjustly taken to jail, etc. etc. It's simply not true. Is he perfect at all times on every issue? Absolutely not, but he's not aggressively ignorant in any way I don't think. Or rather his actions speak louder than any miscommunicated words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Putting black women in chains seems pretty fucking racist if you ask me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Quote I was curious so I looked into what previous jobs they had in government): 18 were House Reps 17 were Governors (16 state, 1 territorial - Taft) 16 were Senators 14 were Vice President 8 were Secretaries 5 had no electoral public service experience (Taylor, Grant, Hoover, Eisenhower, Trump...though 4 had been appointed to key positions) Obviously there is overlap in that list. In terms of what they were doing in the year immediately before becoming President: 1 was doing nothing (Trump) 1 was in foreign service (Buchanan) 1 was in local government (Harrison) 1 was house rep (Garfield) 3 were in military (Taylor, Grant, Eisenhower) 3 were senator (Harding, Kennedy, Obama) 5 were cabinet members (Hoover, Madison, Monroe, Adams, Taft) 7 were governor (Hayes, Cleveland, McKinley, Wilson, F.D.Roosevelt, Clinton, G.W.Bush) 10 were out of office (Washington, Jackson, Polk, Pierce, Lincoln, Harrison, Cleveland, Nixon, Carter, Reagan) 13 were vice president (Adams, Jefferson, Van Buren, Tyler, Filmore, Johnson, Arthur, T.Roosevelt, Coolidge, Truman, Johnson, Ford, H.W.Bush) In the postwar era, you have LBJ, Carter, Reagan, Clinton and both Bushes who were former governors—so six out of the 13 presidents. Only 2 senators have made it—Obama and Kennedy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said: In the postwar era, you have LBJ, Carter, Reagan, Clinton and both Bushes who were former governors—so six out of the 13 presidents. Only 2 senators have made it—Obama and Kennedy. George H. W. Bush was never a governor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 17 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: George H. W. Bush was never a governor. Duly corrected. 5 out of 13. Then Two senators, 4 VPs, 1 general, 1 orange businessman. Unless I’ve missed something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 fascist rhetoric Joe Biden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 1 hour ago, stepee said: Putting black women in chains seems pretty fucking racist if you ask me. Those cops were indeed pretty racist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Greatoneshere said: Except he's chained himself to black women to help them and prevent them from being unjustly taken to jail, etc. etc. It's simply not true. Is he perfect at all times on every issue? Absolutely not, but he's not aggressively ignorant in any way I don't think. Or rather his actions speak louder than any miscommunicated words. That doesn’t change anything I said. Nobody’s accusing him of being racist, just a woefully unhelpful potential ally. Chaining himself to black women doesn’t amount to much when you’ve been a national lawmaker as long as he has. To say nothing of the fact that he dismisses activists if they don’t agree with him. The issues facing black America don’t get to be dictated by Bernie Sanders regardless of how much he’s like to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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