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Joe Biden beats Donald Trump, officially making Trump a one-term twice impeached, twice popular-vote losing president


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3 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said:

 

This is a perfect liberal criticism of Bernie: doesn’t even mention one policy issue

 

I understand what you are saying, but policy isn't everything, for three reasons:

 

1) Policy doesn't cover how effective you are. You could have great ideas and get nothing done because you don't have the skills to work with enough legislators. 

2) Policy doesn't get you elected, electability does.

3) You can have flaws that are unrelated to policy. Trump, for example, may have good policy for some of his voters, but his temperament is separate from that.

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3 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said:

 

I understand what you are saying, but policy isn't everything, for three reasons:

 

1) Policy doesn't cover how effective you are. You could have great ideas and get nothing done because you don't have the skills to work with enough legislators. 

2) Policy doesn't get you elected, electability does.

3) You can have flaws that are unrelated to policy. Trump, for example, may have good policy for some of his voters, but his temperament is separate from that.

 

Are we living in world where Hillary won in 2016

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12 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said:

 

What are you talking about?

 

“It was on her website” was a common excuse Hillary people used when she was criticized for not centering her campaign around policy or being ambiguous about what policies she supported.

 

She ran a campaign based on her being a competent manager for the empire.  I’m not sure how this counts as her having the policy to get elected. 

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2 hours ago, RedSoxFan9 said:

 

“It was on her website” was a common excuse Hillary people used when she was criticized for not centering her campaign around policy or being ambiguous about what policies she supported.

 

She ran a campaign based on her being a competent manager for the empire.  I’m not sure how this counts as her having the policy to get elected. 

 

She was such a bad candidate she lost to Donald Fucking Trump.

 

:poop:

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