Joe Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: Yeah, but the waiting for the next batch of votes to drop is nerve wracking. I know Biden still has a path without AZ, but it's already too close for comfort. Relax! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 That helps. But I jsut want it to be over. The waiting is excruciating. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Joe said: Relax! Uh...why is that good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jason said: Preemptively declaring defeat is certainly something the Democrats know how to do. I mean fucking seriously, the Democrats are not winning with these lukewarm military vet candidates, so how the fuck could it possibly be worse to try something different, even if it's not a sure thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Just now, marioandsonic said: Uh...why is that good? It means Biden is closing the gap considerably in PA. I'm not as optimistic as those pollsters saying it's "done" but it's def a good sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Just now, marioandsonic said: Uh...why is that good? Because Biden is certain to win PA, which has more EV than AZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Jason said: I mean fucking seriously, the Democrats are not winning with these lukewarm military vet candidates, so how the fuck could it possibly be worse to try something different, even if it's not a sure thing? What other "lukewarm military vet candidate" have they run? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Joe said: Because Biden is certain to win PA, which has more EV than AZ. I am holding you guys to that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Just now, Joe said: What other "lukewarm military vet candidate" have they run? MJ Hegar in TX and Amy McGrath in KY come to mind right away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chollowa Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: Yeah, but the waiting for the next batch of votes to drop is nerve wracking. I know Biden still has a path without AZ, but it's already too close for comfort. I get it I'm worried about what that 1am vote brings in terms of how much the 80k shrinks. But I'm extremely cautiously optimistic that the lead holds even if it's destined for a recount/court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, sblfilms said: MJ Hegar in TX and Amy McGrath in KY come to mind right away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, sblfilms said: MJ Hegar in TX and Amy McGrath in KY come to mind right away I don't think that proves that it's the only thing they are capable of running. It's 2 candidates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Just now, Joe said: I don't think that proves that it's the only thing they are capable of running. It's 2 candidates. They aren’t the only ones, but they are two who got tons of money this cycle and basically ran on “Hey guys, Democrats are patriotic too so you can’t call ya country hating socialist!” But there are definitely more than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69los Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Joe said: I don't think that proves that it's the only thing they are capable of running. It's 2 candidates. Kim Mangone also. She was up against Kevin McCarthy CA-23. Only 3 that I recall, but all 3 had big name opponents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Just now, sblfilms said: They aren’t the only ones, but they are two who got tons of money this cycle and basically ran on “Hey guys, Democrats are patriotic too so you can’t call ya country hating socialist!” But there are definitely more than that. Mark Kelly also beat McSally by a bigger margin than Sinema did. Duckworth is another recent successful candidate with military experience. I don't know that they are specifically picking military candidates to run, but if they are, it does seem to be working sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 19 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: Uh...why is that good? Biden was expected to lose the county, but even if he did he still had a good path to victory, so the fact that he's more competitive in the counties he's expected to lose than expected is a good sign. I won't count on anything until it's done, but that's the gist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, Joe said: I don't think that proves that it's the only thing they are capable of running. It's 2 candidates. The tweet I posted mentioned a third. Here's a list of veterans running for Congress in 2020: https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2020/10/21/here-are-the-181-veterans-running-for-congress-this-year/ Sort on the party column and then just look for ones in places that you figure are red districts. Bill Marx: lost Blair Walshingham: lost Connor Lamb: lost Hillary O'Connor Mueri: lost Max Rose: won one term but looks like he's gonna lose this year It's not a good strategy and it seems like it's coming from the same delusion that makes Democratic politicians think that if they avoid pushing policies that sound even vaguely socialist, that the GOP and Fox won't call them socialists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeon Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Dave Chappelle is hosting SNL this week. I wonder if the votes will be counted in time for them to write a sequel to this one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleronin Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Joe said: Mark Kelly also beat McSally by a bigger margin than Sinema did. Duckworth is another recent successful candidate with military experience. I don't know that they are specifically picking military candidates to run, but if they are, it does seem to be working sometimes. I don't think Kelly really ran on his military background (not sure about Duckworth). It seemed he ran more on issues at hand than "Vote for me because I was in the military." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Littleronin said: I don't think Kelly really ran on his military background (not sure about Duckworth). It seemed he ran more on issues at hand than "Vote for me because I was in the military." And I'm not saying that it's never the right strategy, but it's clearly not a winning strategy everywhere they insist on trying it over and over and over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 21 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: That helps. But I jsut want it to be over. The waiting is excruciating. It's a weird situation right now, because the state where Biden is currently losing by the most out of what's left is the one where everyone looking at the outstanding vote right now is most sure that he'll win. Except Fox and AP with Arizona, I guess? Arizona is a weird case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, sblfilms said: They aren’t the only ones, but they are two who got tons of money this cycle and basically ran on “Hey guys, Democrats are patriotic too so you can’t call ya country hating socialist!” But there are definitely more than that. McGrath in particular also likely diverted fundraising from eminently more winnable races, like Maine or the Ossoff race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 24 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: That helps. But I jsut want it to be over. The waiting is excruciating. It sure would be nice if CBS would drop this week's Discovery a little early... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Jason said: And I'm not saying that it's never the right strategy, but it's clearly not a winning strategy everywhere they insist on trying it over and over and over again. It could also be that military veterans just like to run for office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Just now, Joe said: It could also be that military veterans just like to run for office. McGrath was so fucking inept it's hard not to assume she was recruited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Jason said: McGrath in particular also likely diverted fundraising from eminently more winnable races, like Maine or the Ossoff race. Yeah, I think pushing Hegar was in hopes of O’Rourke situation where she pulled a lot of voters in even if they couldn’t flip TX, but could win down ballot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 I can't watch the news but just got a message from a friend that GA is at 15k gap with 90k remaining to count. Can anyone confirm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Joe Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jason said: McGrath was so fucking inept it's hard not to assume she was recruited. Yeah, I dunno. I did look all these candidates up and the first thing they mention was their military experience, but not Mark Kelly like @Littleronin said. I'm not entirely convinced this is some Dem strat, but I am no longer convinced it's not, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 We need more Navy Culinary Specialists running for office, not fighter pilots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: I can't watch the news but just got a message from a friend that GA is at 15k gap with 90k remaining to count. Can anyone confirm? People seem to have slightly different interpretations of his chances with what's left, but it seems like consensus is that Perdue getting to <50% to trigger a runoff is looking good, but Biden getting to a win is a longer shot but still possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 My brother has been sharing all the bullshit conspiracy about Biden cheating to win, basically echoing the same garbage Trump has been spewing. It seriously devastates me to see this from him. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised, given where he lives and he was never much of a critical thinker, but it still hurts like hell. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 36 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: That helps. But I jsut want it to be over. The waiting is excruciating. AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH FUCK that's basically been me all day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 15 minutes ago, Jason said: McGrath in particular also likely diverted fundraising from eminently more winnable races, like Maine or the Ossoff race. Nobody can convince me that the older, establishment Dems REALLY want to see Collins voted out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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