Guest Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: You have to be embarrassed when Florida is better at something government related than you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Spork3245 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 10/30/2020 at 12:41 PM, Spork3245 said: It gives time to refute them, delegitimize them, and call them into question. Trump’s game-plan is likely to prevent a legally unambiguous win for Biden, call into question the election’s legitimacy, prevent the formation of a consensus as to whether there is any election outcome at all, and potentially seize onto that uncertainty to hold onto power. On 10/30/2020 at 12:44 PM, Spork3245 said: The problem I keep running into when I search for things to calm my concerns is that mostly everything seems to be unwritten norms and/or precedents. Show me I’m wrong. Please, I want actual laws and safeguards. On 10/30/2020 at 1:01 PM, Spork3245 said: Hey, I don’t think the country survives it either should it happen The problem is, I’m listening to what the orange man and is cheeto sucking sycophants have been screaming for the past 6+ months. He’s been trying to delegitimize the election results since like April when his approval ratings began plunging. I don’t see him leaving willingly, and there just doesn’t seem to be a hell of a lot of actual safeguards in place, which is worrisome. I do not see a path, outside of a landslide Biden victory, that Trump doesn’t at least attempt to contest the election results. On 10/30/2020 at 1:03 PM, Spork3245 said: @PaladinSoloJust so we’re clear, btw, my argument isn’t that what I’ve posted is 100% going to happen - it’s that having the concern is not unfounded, nor is it “bizarre” On 10/30/2020 at 1:26 PM, Spork3245 said: It’s insane to have concerns that Trump is going to do what he’s been saying and setting up to do? On 10/30/2020 at 1:30 PM, Spork3245 said: And why can’t it be? What laws prevent it from being completely out of the realm of any possibility? On 10/30/2020 at 1:32 PM, Spork3245 said: There’s no mechanism to contest an elections legitimacy/results? On 10/30/2020 at 1:36 PM, Spork3245 said: In which ways am I “fantasizing” that’s impossible? On 10/30/2020 at 1:39 PM, Spork3245 said: What mechanism prevents it? On 10/30/2020 at 1:44 PM, Spork3245 said: So, there’s nothing stopping it besides norms and precedents. There’s obviously a missing link in the post you quoted prior to “hold onto power”, it doesn’t just happen from creating uncertainty, obviously. On 10/30/2020 at 1:46 PM, Spork3245 said: Of course it’s not guaranteed to happen, and I don’t 100% believe it even will. I’m only arguing that the concern is not illegitimate. On 10/30/2020 at 1:59 PM, Spork3245 said: Of course it’s not helpful, but it’s also not helpful to call people insane for having the concern. There’s people itt thread acting like it’s 100% impossible and anyone who thinks otherwise is out of their mind, then there’s people itt on the exact opposite thinking that this is guaranteed to happen and we’re all doomed no matter what happens in the election.There’s a middle ground that, IMO, is the most sane: know the election matters, listen to the polls, but keep an eye on what the GOP/Trump do and say. Am I saying that some unprecedented BS is guaranteed to happen? No, of course not - I’m saying that a worry of potential attempts is valid. You can be concerned, but also not have it overwhelm you, and writing it off completely is potentially just as bad. On 10/30/2020 at 6:06 PM, Spork3245 said: You’ve yet to name these definitive protective mechanisms. You also continue to misrepresent the argument as being people claiming the SCOTUS magically declares Trump god-king: that’s not what’s being said at all. On 10/30/2020 at 6:11 PM, Spork3245 said: I saw I’ve been bringing it up a lot lately, but only because the dismissiveness and name calling to those with concerns is just flat-out insulting. I get that some are certainly being hyperbolic with said concerns, but to act like having ANY concerns what-so-over makes one inferior in some way is baffling. I have concerns, but I also recognize and have stated that they are (hopefully) unlikely to occur, BUT, it’s in the back of my head, and with good reason. On 10/30/2020 at 6:31 PM, Spork3245 said: I never said they’d rule to protect Trump, especially not in the way you’ve been presenting it. I haven’t brought up SCOTUS at all in this conversation, you’ve been, in addition to making assumptions on my purposefully vague “potentially seize onto that uncertainty to hold onto power” statement as to the “how” of it. I will say the concern others are having in regards to SCOTUS is them allowing the electors to vote on their own by the election results “not being valid due to fraud” or some other such nonsense. Do I find this likely? I said SO MANY times now that I do not, however, the concern is also not unfounded. @sblfilms I highlighted some key moments here for you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, SlipperySlope said: Fuck I'm not sleeping tonight, again?? i know we are going to have those new ryzen zen 3 on our minds tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Spork3245 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, sblfilms said: You DO agree, you’ve said on this page exactly how you agree. Don’t pretend now that you don’t Anyway... Nope, you just never actually read my posts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jason said: And you mix the mayo...into the meat? Yep, makes the burgers juicier! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Just now, MarSolo said: Yep, makes the burgers juicier! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaxick Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Biden is 276,981 votes below Trump now in Pennsylvania. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, Firewithin said: To paraphrase Clarke's third law; Trump's malevolence is indistinguishable from his incompetence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SuperSpreader Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: Don't jinx it!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 NV fucking with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PaladinSolo Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 20 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, Chairslinger said: To paraphrase Clarke's third law; Trump's malevolence is indistinguishable from his incompetence. NO MECHANISM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Me checking the news just now and finding out about Michigan. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Congratulations everyone! It's over with. Trump is done. Finally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimpleG Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Just now, Massdriver said: It's over with. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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marioandsonic Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Is PA still counting? Or are we waiting again until tomorrow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Massdriver said: Me checking the news just now and finding out about Michigan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 y’all remember in the lion king when the hyenas turn on scar? pic.twitter.com/TSRI6tmc1X— 💰TRILLIONAIRE💰 (@maltyhops) November 4, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Massdriver said: Congratulations everyone! It's over with. Trump is done. Finally. Very serious and pragmatic guide on how to remove Trump from the White House if he refuses to leave.... Spoiler 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: Is PA still counting? Or are we waiting again until tomorrow? Pittsburgh is apparently counting through the night, should be done by the morning, all results should be in friday though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaxick Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Biden 54,405 votes below Trump in Georgia now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted November 4, 2020 Author Share Posted November 4, 2020 Just now, PaladinSolo said: Pittsburgh is apparently counting through the night, should be done by the morning. @Chris- mentioned that there are a lot of mail-in votes yet to be counted there, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 22 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: Not yet, bitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Just now, SaysWho? said: @Chris- mentioned that there are a lot of mail-in votes yet to be counted there, I think. Local reporter: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, SaysWho? said: @Chris- mentioned that there are a lot of mail-in votes yet to be counted there, I think. Yeah they said the number on MSNBC, don't remember what it was but it was 10s of thousands, philly still has over 100k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, Massdriver said: Congratulations everyone! It's over with. Trump is done. Finally. Not singling you out but just using your post. I'm glad people are confident in a win but there's enough reason to wait on the congratulating for a little bit. PA and GA are looking good, but not a sure thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Just now, ManUtdRedDevils said: What I would live to see is what Russia has to say about Trump. Remember, no matter how secret Trump kept a deal between him and Putin at least one other guy knows about that deal(and probably recorded it) It could be glorious how fast these people turn on him once he is no longer useful to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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