Zaku3 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Now I know how King Pyrrhus of Epirus felt after defeating the Romans at the Battle of Heraclea in 280 BC and the Battle of Asculum in 279 BC. While Biden may win still. This election was in a way for the soul of our nation. I don't think we can afford more like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, GeneticBlueprint said: I mean that's where the phrase pyrrhic victory comes from... Ya think? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, GeneticBlueprint said: I mean that's where the phrase pyrrhic victory comes from... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: Texas in 2016: Biden performed miserably compared to Clinton in the counties along the Mexican border. These counties have a lot of hispanics in them. Where’s the 2020 map by county to compare this to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Bloody disgraceful on the part of the Democratic Party. Absolutely, intolerably, inexcusably disgraceful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Now I know how King Pyrrhus of Epirus felt after defeating the Romans at the Battle of Heraclea in 280 BC and the Battle of Asculum in 279 BC. Pyrrhic victory for sure, jesus christ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Now I know how King Pyrrhus of Epirus felt after defeating the Romans at the Battle of Heraclea in 280 BC and the Battle of Asculum in 279 BC. How the fuck do you remember this stuff off the top of your head? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Spork3245 said: Where’s the 2020 map by county to compare this to? Texas Election Results Live - The New York Times WWW.NYTIMES.COM See full results and maps from the Texas elections. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Just now, mclumber1 said: Texas Election Results Live - The New York Times WWW.NYTIMES.COM See full results and maps from the Texas elections. JFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chris- said: How the fuck do you remember this stuff off the top of your head? Bruh do you even Pyrrhic victory? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 What I’ve learned in the past 24 hours: Latinos are indifferent to white men, but love white women 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 The Democrats need more of this. Give people a reason to vote for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, Joe said: Unless I'm reading these numbers wrong, this isn't a turnout issue. They actually have very good turnout (I think?) this election. They're definitely voting for a geriatric white man, just the wrong one. So the only justification I can come up with here is that Trump actually hit on the covid economy in a tangible way. The pandemic disproportionally affected minorities. So while we all might be preaching for shut downs, masks, regulations etc., many hispanics in working class communities can't afford shut downs. Trump yelling loudly to open the country signifies to them a sense of self-preservation of their own skin. That's all I can think of. Any Trump support for non-Cuban hispanics isn't driven by immigration rhetoric, social values, or anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom631 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: JFC BUILD THE WALL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaxick Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Disheartening seeing Gary Peters still losing is race in Michigan. 93% of votes in though so I'm sure he'll be gaining ground as more of the votes roll in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 So Hispanics want a wall to keep other Hispanics out? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Kal-El814 said: Bruh do you even Pyrrhic victory? Every night and sometimes in the morning... ... ... Spoiler IT’S A MASTURBATION JOKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 One positive takeaway is that Wade’s prediction of a populist GOP seems way less likely to happen anytime soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: What I’ve learned in the past 24 hours: Latinos are indifferent to white men, but love white women Guilty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Just now, ManUtdRedDevils said: So Hispanics want a wall to keep other Hispanics out? This is less on Hispanics and more of a noted behavior of 2nd-3rd+ generation immigrants. It also depends on the community itself. I grew up in both El Paso and the RGV of Texas. Those areas aren't necessarily anti-immigrant yet given how closely tied their familial structures are to border-crossing relations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 19 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: Biden performed poorly with pretty much all hispanic groups compared to Clinton though. Quite an embarrassment. As I had mentioned a few weeks? months? years? back, there has been a huge rush of memes and straight disinformation specifically targeting Spanish-speaking religious folks. News about Biden wanting to close all churches or clips of Trump saying something that sounds religious, but lacks any sincerity that wouldn't be picked up when English isn't your first language. A lot of it was straight gross and would have been flagged as offensive were it in English, but gets a pass because Facebook seems to be way more lenient on Spanish-language content. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: One positive takeaway is that Wade’s prediction of a populist GOP seems way less likely to happen anytime soon! Care to elaborate? Because I actually draw the opposite conclusion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 So dems ducked up the senate. Biden may actually do it. The turtle is gonna tell the orange one to bounce s9 he can do fucking nothing for 4 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Just now, Firewithin said: So dems ducked up the senate. Biden may actually do it. The turtle is gonna tell the orange one to bounce s9 he can do fucking nothing for 4 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Alright, first off, I apologize for being completely unstable last night. I should be glad I didn't do any drinking... Anyway, let me sum up my thoughts as of now: POSITIVES: --As of now, if looks like mail-in and early voting will give Biden the votes he needs to pull off the win from behind. And Trump getting booted from the WH is a much, MUCH needed victory, especially with how 2020 has gone. --There is still a chance that the Senate would be split 50/50. Assuming Biden wins, while this means the Dems won't get the majority like we hoped, it would at least give them the tiebreaker, so maybe they can get some shit done. NEGATIVES: --This was nowhere near the landslide that we were hoping for, which would have been a rebuke on Trumpism. Which means that for the foreseeable future, the GOP is going to triple down on it. That does not bode well for 2022 and 2024... --If this doesn't demonstrate how big of a failure the Dem leadership is, nothing will. Pelosi, Schumer, and the like need to step down, as their current strategy trying to cater to left-leaning centrists isn't working. Maybe this could work around into being a positive? But I doubt it. --The EC is still a joke 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Comet Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: Alright, first off, I apologize for being completely unstable last night. I should be glad I didn't do any drinking... Anyway, let me sum up my thoughts as of now: POSITIVES: --As of now, if looks like mail-in and early voting will give Biden the votes he needs to pull off the win from behind. And Trump getting booted from the WH is a much, MUCH needed victory, especially with how 2020 has gone. --There is still a chance that the Senate would be split 50/50. Assuming Biden wins, while this means the Dems won't get the majority like we hoped, it would at least give them the tiebreaker, so maybe they can get some shit done. NEGATIVES: --This was nowhere near the landslide that we were hoping for, which would have been a rebuke on Trumpism. Which means that for the foreseeable future, the GOP is going to triple down on it. That does not bode well for 2022 and 2024... --If this doesn't demonstrate how big of a failure the Dem leadership is, nothing will. Pelosi, Schumer, and the like need to step down, as their current strategy trying to cater to left-leaning centrists isn't working. Maybe this could work around into being a positive? But I doubt it. --The EC is still a joke Here's another negative: polling has been rendered completely obsolete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Biden waking up this morning: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Care to elaborate? Because I actually draw the opposite conclusion! Because skullfuckery and austerity seem to be successful enough to come close enough to victory to not warrant changing tactics too dramatically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Just now, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Please replace all the leadership. There is talented and popular new blood. Let them take charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Just now, Comet said: Here's another negative: polling has been rendered completely obsolete. And one more: Even if Trump ends up losing, he would still being in the WH for two and a half more months. I dread to think what kind of crazy shit he'll do between then and now... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, thewhyteboar said: Please replace all the leadership. There is talented and popular new blood. Let them take charge. But muh fundraising Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, marioandsonic said: And one more: Even if Trump ends up losing, he would still being in the WH for two and a half more months. I dread to think what kind of crazy shit he'll do between then and now... A lot of it will be self preservation and enriching himself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Dem leadership at the party level AND in the Senate and House should all resign. What an embarrassment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: And one more: Even if Trump ends up losing, he would still being in the WH for two and a half more months. I dread to think what kind of crazy shit he'll do between then and now... Those paintings and other priceless works of art won't steal themselves by January 20th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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