b_m_b_m_b_m Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jose said: So who do you suggest then that both somehow passes your purity test and has an acceptable level of experience? That candidate does not even exist. Whoever Biden picks will almost certainly have more experience and be less left-leaning than Abrams. You guys will complain about it. Self-defeatism ftw. I do not care who the VP is, it doesn't affect my vote. I don't think there's a good pick out there, but I'm willing to be convinced. I'd prefer an ideological progressive, as what I'm concerned with is the future of the party, and pushing it leftward, along with providing an additional check in the Senate on Biden's seemingly innate want to work with republicans. What makes you think she's particularly left leaning? Again, I genuinely do not know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadatog Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Stacy Abrams is super smart, and can very clearly get her point across when speaking/being interviewed. Also I think it was said here before that she would be insurance that the R's would not try to impeach Biden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 2 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: John Kerry And in 2016 they were shitting all over an Army captain that was killed in combat because his dad was a Democrat or had a funny last name or both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 33 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: I do not care who the VP is, it doesn't affect my vote. I don't think there's a good pick out there, but I'm willing to be convinced. I'd prefer an ideological progressive, as what I'm concerned with is the future of the party, and pushing it leftward, along with providing an additional check in the Senate on Biden's seemingly innate want to work with republicans. What makes you think she's particularly left leaning? Again, I genuinely do not know. She ran on a platform of Medicaid expansion in the Deep South and almost won. She would almost certainly support M4A based on interviews she's given on the subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Oh man, the right wing shit machine would HATE Stacy Abrams so much. An overweight black woman who doesn't look like a super model? They would lose their shit. Any woman who is under 60 and isn't at least an 7 or 8 on the attractive scale is instantly shunned as an unfuckable harpy worthy of immediate derision. Any female who isn't naturally beautiful and/or doesn't put a massive amount of effort into being attractive is something they can't even understand. They may as well be a space alien. What is this, a female I don't want to fuck? Get it away from me. BOOOOOO! BOOOOOOOOO! DOES NOT COMPUTE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 My friend is currently freaking out because apparently Biden and Hillary had some Zoom meeting and he’s worried Biden is picking her. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 @Jason 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Jose said: She ran on a platform of Medicaid expansion in the Deep South and almost won. She would almost certainly support M4A based on interviews she's given on the subject. not a knock on her, but it really is shocking that more don't run on medicaid expansion. its popular even in red, red, red states like ID and UT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 58 minutes ago, Jose said: @Jason 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted April 28, 2020 Author Share Posted April 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Jose said: @Jason hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 3 hours ago, Chadatog said: Stacy Abrams is super smart, and can very clearly get her point across when speaking/being interviewed. Also I think it was said here before that she would be insurance that the R's would not try to impeach Biden. 100%. I’ve been hoping that Stacey Abrams would be the DNC nominee’s VP pick for awhile now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 @mclumber1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 I've already got some campaign slogans read to go for him: "AMASH IS TOTALLY GONNA SMASH!" "I'M GETTING SMASHED FOR AMASH!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, Emperor Diocletian II said: I've already got some campaign slogans read to go for him: "AMASH IS TOTALLY GONNA SMASH!" "I'M GETTING SMASHED FOR AMASH!" I always thought it was pronounced “Amahsh”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 13 minutes ago, Emperor Diocletian II said: I've already got some campaign slogans read to go for him: "AMASH IS TOTALLY GONNA SMASH!" "I'M GETTING SMASHED FOR AMASH!" I got smashed in the ash by some trash while on hash it hurt like I got bashed, thanks Amash! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 So does this hurt or help Trump? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, MarSolo said: So does this hurt or help Trump? I'm inclined to agree with @mclumber1 that this siphons lukewarm GOP voters more than it siphons Biden voters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, MarSolo said: So does this hurt or help Trump? I figure Amash hurts Trump more than he hurts Biden. He's more conservative in a lot of ways than Trump. But then again, he's a lot more liberal than Biden in some areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: I figure Amash hurts Trump more than he hurts Biden. He's more conservative in a lot of ways than Trump. But then again, he's a lot more liberal than Biden in some areas. But he's also anti-abortion, for example. He's not the most extreme Republican out there in terms of being anti-abortion but he's also pretty far right of where the typical Democratic voter is, I think, and abortion is a pretty hut-button issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Amash has voted with Trump nearly 90% since the start of 2019. He's hardly even an Independent. He was effectively kicked out of the GOP caucus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 1 minute ago, osxmatt said: Amash has voted with Trump nearly 90% since the start of 2019. He's hardly even an Independent. He was effectively kicked out of the GOP caucus. I'm not sure what type of argument you are trying to make. Angus King and Sanders are both independent, but they pretty much vote lockstep inline the Democrats. If anything, the fact that Amash votes 90% of the time with other Republicans is a strong point if he wants to win over never Trumper Republican voters - Vote Amash and you get conservative policies without all of the mind numbing and embarassing theatrics of Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 He's a non-issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 1 hour ago, mclumber1 said: I'm not sure what type of argument you are trying to make. Angus King and Sanders are both independent, but they pretty much vote lockstep inline the Democrats. If anything, the fact that Amash votes 90% of the time with other Republicans is a strong point if he wants to win over never Trumper Republican voters - Vote Amash and you get conservative policies without all of the mind numbing and embarassing theatrics of Trump. Those theatrics aren't mind numbing and embarrassing to Republicans. It's *literally* the reason Republicans support him. My point is Amash isn't running as Libertarian because he's running Libertarian. He's a Republican that no longer has a home in the GOP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 1 minute ago, osxmatt said: Those theatrics aren't mind numbing and embarrassing to Republicans. It's *literally* the reason Republicans support him. My point is Amash isn't running as Libertarian because he's running Libertarian. He's a Republican that no longer has a home in the GOP. Fair enough. But the same thing with Gary Johnson in 2012 (and 2016). He was running for President as a Republican, but dropped out, joined the LP, and ran for President for that party. He felt he didn't have a home anymore - and that was with the standard white bread GOP nominee Romney. Now you have a pussy grabbing, impeached Trump leading the party. Amash definitely doesn't have a home there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: Fair enough. But the same thing with Gary Johnson in 2012 (and 2016). He was running for President as a Republican, but dropped out, joined the LP, and ran for President for that party. He felt he didn't have a home anymore - and that was with the standard white bread GOP nominee Romney. Now you have a pussy grabbing, impeached Trump leading the party. Amash definitely doesn't have a home there. This prompted me to look at the 2016 election results to check out Gary Johnson's vote total. I totally forgot Colin Powell finished third in electoral votes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 You guys wasting a lot of oxygen on a non issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 It’s really sad that our choices for President is either a 74 year old rapist or a 78 year old rapist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, Dodger said: It’s really sad that our choices for President is either a 74 year old rapist or a 78 year old rapist This is really offensive. Sundowning rapists. Both are sundowning rapists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, Dodger said: It’s really sad that our choices for President is either a 74 year old rapist or a 78 year old rapist I could, and was, at least get somewhat excited for hilldawg's candidacy. Biden though? Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 You know Obama is the real winner here. Let’s be honest he wasn’t that great but his time was bookended by the two biggest idiots to ever disgrace the office so he comes out looking pretty good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 1 minute ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: I could, and was, at least get somewhat excited for hilldawg's candidacy. Biden though? Lol I never thought Trump would make me miss Hilary. Sure she was a corrupt corporate shill, but at least we’d have some competence in the office. As I get older I start to understand @Emperor Diocletian II more. If you’re going to be a corrupt jerkstore fascist the least you can do is make the trains run on time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dodger said: I never thought Trump would make me miss Hilary. Sure she was a corrupt corporate shill, but at least we’d have some competence in the office. As I get older I start to understand @Emperor Diocletian II more. If you’re going to be a corrupt jerkstore fascist the least you can do is make the trains run on time. There also would have been the brief moment where social progress continues (not so much for economic progress though) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Where does Amish stand on immigration? This motivates the two parties a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Massdriver said: Where does Amish stand on immigration? This motivates the two parties a lot. Does Rumspringa count as immigration? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jason said: Does Rumspringa count as immigration? Isn't Rumspringa basically girls gone wild for the Amish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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