Keyser_Soze Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Anathema- said: High key wild that Sanders gets to stay in a losing race to "win concessions" when literally no other candidate is allowed to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbobo Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 I'm shocked that WA is essentially a toss up at this point, really thought Bernie would have at least won that one. He really did not grow beyond his enthusiastic base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 I guess Sanders can say he won North Dakota. He has a chance in Washington, but it's not much consolation. It's more of a story that he's not running away with it. Not excited about it, but it is what it is. Hopefully he's a much better general election candidate than he was most of the primary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 The map: California is still a pretty fantastic win for him, as is his strength in the west. North Dakota hasn't been updated, and the delegate thing makes Iowa a Buttigieg state. Otherwise, that's a good spread for Biden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 I am way less excited about a Joe Biden presidency compared to a Hillary Cliton presidency. And I was not even that excited for her to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jose said: I am way less excited about a Joe Biden presidency compared to a Hillary Cliton presidency. And I was not even that excited for her to begin with. At least there was a broken barrier with her. At the same time, and this really applies to any candidate, winning the election and helping down ballot to help with redistricting and making it so we don't have to keep bumping the RBG thread to troll everyone would be exciting in itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbobo Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: At least there was a broken barrier with her. We are going to crack the octogenarian barrier with Biden presidency, so we have that to look forward to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 At least Biden will be for one term if he somehow won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 30 minutes ago, Massdriver said: At least Biden will be for one term if he somehow won. I guess you can say his VP pick would be (•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) Biden her time. YYEEEAAAAHHHH 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 3 hours ago, Anathema- said: High key wild that Sanders gets to stay in a losing race to "win concessions" when literally no other candidate is allowed to. So you agree with Bernie that the establishment forced out the other centrists? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SaysWho? Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jason said: I think it’s a toss up. You know he wants to go toe to toe with Biden in that debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Well one thing this primary season has proven is that the "Bernie-bro" is pretty much a myth or they really were Russian trolls and bots all along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, osxmatt said: Please be a general election sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 A source tells CNN that he's expected to stay in the race Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Well one thing this primary season has proven is that the "Bernie-bro" is pretty much a myth or they really were Russian trolls and bots all along. Chapo and there equally awful followers are real. The problem is that shouting “Bernie Bro” became a weapon against Sanders and his not awful supporters. But the Bros are real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Well one thing this primary season has proven is that the "Bernie-bro" is pretty much a myth or they really were Russian trolls and bots all along. Basically there are more Bernie Stan's online in general, but the rate of toxicity is essentially the same across supporters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 minute ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Basically there are more Bernie Stan's online in general, but the rate of toxicity is essentially the same across supporters This only measures negative language rates. The Bros harassment efforts include things beyond negative word choices. There was an interview I read with the researcher where he talked about wanting to look deeper into the interactions to see if there are other differences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, sblfilms said: This only measures negative language rates. The Bros harassment efforts include things beyond negative word choices. There was an interview I read with the researcher where he talked about wanting to look deeper into the interactions to see if there are other differences. "Bernie wants to **checks notes** provide healthcare for poor people." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, sblfilms said: This only measures negative language rates. The Bros harassment efforts include things beyond negative word choices. There was an interview I read with the researcher where he talked about wanting to look deeper into the interactions to see if there are other differences. It's just about the only quantifiable look done into this "issue" so until other actual data comes out the sexist Bernie Bros narrative is pure bunk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 minute ago, GeneticBlueprint said: "Bernie wants to **checks notes** provide healthcare for poor people." On 2/25/2020 at 11:13 AM, GeneticBlueprint said: This trope is **checks notes** my least favorite thing **checks notes** on Twitter **checks notes** Fuck everybody that does **checks notes** this. FLIP FLOPPER REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 minute ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: It's just about the only quantifiable look done into this "issue" so until other actual data comes out the sexist Bernie Bros narrative is pure bunk “Womens be lying” is a take one can have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Just now, sblfilms said: “Womens be lying” is a take one can have Anecdotes isn't data though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 20 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: A source tells CNN that he's expected to stay in the race He should, then he can call out the hypocrisy of everyone who endorsed Biden when they're at the debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 minute ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Anecdotes isn't data though Yes it is. It’s simply a single data point. As I said above, the issue isn’t whether the Bros exist, they do, the what is at issue is how large of a contingent are they and what responsibility does a candidate have for the behavior of their supporters. I don’t think the Bros are a particularly large percentage of his dwindling support, and I don’t think he’s responsible for their behavior because it’s antithetical to his own. Sanders is a good man, the Bros are not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, Jason said: FLIP FLOPPER REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE You know I'm right though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Yes it is. trolololo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Bernie staying in. I like that he will force Joe to get on the record regarding progressive policy issues when the spotlight is on the two of them in the debate. Still not a fan of him staying in, though. Feel like it's time to coalesce and focus on Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 I feel like one last debate is a good thing. Not to tank Biden (since I don't think it will happen), but to get Biden to maybe commit to doing some progressive things that the majority of the party is asking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, Scott said: Bernie staying in. I like that he will force Joe to get on the record regarding progressive policy issues when the spotlight is on the two of them in the debate. Still not a fan of him staying in, though. Feel like it's time to coalesce and focus on Trump. Biden will struggle and still easily win but the GOP will have even more video to edit together to hurt Biden. Good work, Sanders! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 13 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Yes it is. It’s simply a single data point. As I said above, the issue isn’t whether the Bros exist, they do, the what is at issue is how large of a contingent are they and what responsibility does a candidate have for the behavior of their supporters. I don’t think the Bros are a particularly large percentage of his dwindling support, and I don’t think he’s responsible for their behavior because it’s antithetical to his own. Sanders is a good man, the Bros are not. If it is a cold day in the winter that didn't mean climate change isn't real. C'mon man. 6 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Biden will struggle and still easily win but the GOP will have even more video to edit together to hurt Biden. Good work, Sanders! Yeah they'll just use existing footage of joe calling to cut social security and Medicare. C'mon man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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