mclumber1 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 I would just say that both Sanders and Trump have been compromised or duped by shitty dictators in the past. The biggest difference is Sanders is a sincere person, while Trump is a narcissistic asshole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 hour ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: If it seems to be a matter of branding I suppose that is true, and is why I briefly flirted with the idea of supporting Liz, but she didn't prove herself left enough for my taste. But after Bernie there is no left left in the democratic party, so him losing is a blow to the movement. I think Bernie made huge inroads with Latinos and some progress with blacks. I don't think your movement ends with Bernie. AOC and others that are very young are stepping up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Even Scarborough thinks this is stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Biden-Warren or Biden-Pete Who will it be??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 34 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said: God's he looked normal before I was born Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: God's he looked normal before I was born He spoke and sounded somewhat normal too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 11 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: He spoke and sounded somewhat normal too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 29 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: God's he looked normal before I was born Nah he always looked goofy, he just didn't used to be orange. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Jose said: As Bernie Sanders Pushed for Closer Ties, Soviet Union Spotted Opportunity https://nyti.ms/2uXEhlP Damn, they are all out to get him now. JFC we have learned nothing and deserve everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 hour ago, johnny said: Yeah man, acting like it's not a big deal has worked wonders for him. Keep it up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 25 minutes ago, Jose said: Yeah man, acting like it's not a big deal has worked wonders for him. Keep it up. Plenty of people here voted for Hillary despite Ana. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Remarkableriots Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/warren-sexism-2020/ Quote Democrats are not going to be the ones to get a woman elected president. This party, as currently constituted, is never going to fully get behind a woman candidate, because no real woman can match the pubescent fantasy of a woman Democrats seem to want. No woman can be explicitly feminist enough while also nonthreatening to male swing voters. No woman can be laughably overqualified compared to her male opponents while still being a “new” and “fresh” face to lead the party. No woman can be strong, sweet, tough, flexible, brilliant, accessible, fiery, motherly, and attractive, but not distractingly so, all at the same time. And if a woman can’t be all those things, well, why take the risk of promoting a woman when we can find a perfectly mediocre man just lying around waiting for somebody to give him a chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Quote So does this mean you want the million dollars or you don’t want the million dollars? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 21 minutes ago, Remarkableriots said: https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/warren-sexism-2020/ Great article... particularly this line Quote Democrats will not elect a woman who supports the patriarchy. They also won’t elect a woman like Warren, who means to smash it. They will excoriate a woman as a “weak” “flip-flopper” who tries to do something in between. And one day we’re going to wake up and Nikki Haley or Ivanka Trump is going to be president, and we’re all going to wonder how the hell that happened. It will happen because Republicans are comfortable with their sexism, while Democrats refuse to confront their own. Democrats won’t embrace misogyny like Republicans, but won’t examine it long enough to overcome it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 Elizabeth Warren goes all girl power, endorses Tulsi Gabbard for president Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 5 hours ago, Jason said: Plenty of people here voted for Hillary despite Ana. You're just as obsessed with Ana as he is with Bernie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 I do want to say that NYT thing is bullshit and it sucks that some people are only seeing how they operated against Clinton now that they're hitting Bernie with the same clouds and shadows nonsense, but this is part of what he'd have to face down in a GE. This is only a taste. Wait until the Castro memorials start rolling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 hour ago, SaysWho? said: Elizabeth Warren goes all girl power, endorses Tulsi Gabbard for president Biden/Gabbard 2020! Campaign slogan: “Wat?” or maybe “Schizophrenia 4 America” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 Just had a conversation of mine with a friend in California who voted for Warren: SaysWho? - Sanders and Warren were my Top 2. I did dig Yang because I've thought UBI is a great idea for a few years now and liked that he brought it into the mainstream. I've got a feeling it'll be Biden, and while I like him, I feel like it's going to be another election season where I have to tell people, "I'm positive he feels differently now trust me," when they bring up bad votes in the 80s and 90s and early 00s. Her - Had Yang still been in the race on California primary voting day, I probably would've gone Yang gang. And get your talking points ready, because you one hundred percent will have to defend Old Joe's actions from when you and I were in elementary school. SaysWho? - Yeah, I'm already picturing the conversation. Me: You know Trump wants to cut social security, right? Person: Biden said he did during his 2008 run for presidency! Me: Yeah, but he was just saying that because that's what moderates were saying at the time. Trust me he ain't doin' shit Person: Did he tell you that? Me: No, but look at my face. Would I lie? May not be persuasive. Her: Do your damndest SaysWho? - We got this, fam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 👀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 10 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: 👀 She had to delete an earlier tweet because, while I'm pretty sure she meant that people were tweeting this at her, it sounded off. Although her new tweet still sounds bad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 31 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: Just had a conversation of mine with a friend in California who voted for Warren: SaysWho? - Sanders and Warren were my Top 2. I did dig Yang because I've thought UBI is a great idea for a few years now and liked that he brought it into the mainstream. I've got a feeling it'll be Biden, and while I like him, I feel like it's going to be another election season where I have to tell people, "I'm positive he feels differently now trust me," when they bring up bad votes in the 80s and 90s and early 00s. Her - Had Yang still been in the race on California primary voting day, I probably would've gone Yang gang. And get your talking points ready, because you one hundred percent will have to defend Old Joe's actions from when you and I were in elementary school. SaysWho? - Yeah, I'm already picturing the conversation. Me: You know Trump wants to cut social security, right? Person: Biden said he did during his 2008 run for presidency! Me: Yeah, but he was just saying that because that's what moderates were saying at the time. Trust me he ain't doin' shit Person: Did he tell you that? Me: No, but look at my face. Would I lie? May not be persuasive. Her: Do your damndest SaysWho? - We got this, fam. I told y’all Yang was the most electable! (in all seriousness, despite not believing this when I first started trolling you guys, I actually think he *would* probably be more competitive than Biden—and less divisive than Sanders—at this point *if* the dirt the Trump attack machine would have inevitably dug up on him was only of the “meh” variety. But that is a VERY big ‘if’) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said: I told y’all Yang was the most electable! (in all seriousness, despite not believing this when I first started trolling you guys, I actually think he *would* probably be more competitive than Biden—and less divisive than Sanders—at this point *if* the dirt the Trump attack machine would have inevitably dug up on him was only of the “meh” variety. But that is a VERY big ‘if’) Yang's comment in I think his last debate -- Trump isn't the cause of all of our problems -- is what rang true and is what Biden should adopt (and probably won't). Naively thinking that Republicans will work with you once Trump is gone ignores: Republicans not working with him during the damn transition into Obama's first term, The base not magically dying once Trump is gone, The politics and history that got us Trump. It's easy for another Trump clone to arrive later because Democrats keep idiotically thinking he's an aberration and McConnell is the obstacle. McConnell sucks, but so did Ryan, Cantor and Boehner. None of them wanted to work with Democrats, and all of them promoted awful policies that contribute to busts like 2008. McConnell just upped the suck, but it existed before him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 31 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: Yang's comment in I think his last debate -- Trump isn't the cause of all of our problems -- is what rang true and is what Biden should adopt (and probably won't). Naively thinking that Republicans will work with you once Trump is gone ignores: Republicans not working with him during the damn transition into Obama's first term, The base not magically dying once Trump is gone, The politics and history that got us Trump. It's easy for another Trump clone to arrive later because Democrats keep idiotically thinking he's an aberration and McConnell is the obstacle. McConnell sucks, but so did Ryan, Cantor and Boehner. None of them wanted to work with Democrats, and all of them promoted awful policies that contribute to busts like 2008. McConnell just upped the suck, but it existed before him. Important to note that Mitch and Trump is the new standard, the new baseline, the new zero. It's only going to get worse from here. The fascism won't stop with 45 out of office. The GOP has wholly embraced voter suppression and anti small d democratic underpinnings of power. There's not going to be a "come to Jesus I now see the Light" moment for the GOP. Preventing that is that there's too many crises that the GOP can't/won't acknowledge and the Democratic party will acknowledge but do nothing to solve the core issues, but make marginal corrections on the periphery which hardly satiates the thirst for change, let alone correct the underlying problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 hour ago, SaysWho? said: Me: Trust me he ain't doin' shit I agree he isn't going to get jack shit done. Hopefully we can survive 4 years of nothing improving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 3 hours ago, SaysWho? said: Elizabeth Warren goes all girl power, endorses Tulsi Gabbard for president I was going to be upset at the misdirect but the video was actually worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 16 minutes ago, Remarkableriots said: I agree he isn't going to get jack shit done. Hopefully we can survive 4 years of nothing improving. If it was only four years of not improving, instead of getting worse vis a vi climate change, that would be a massive improvement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 2 hours ago, SaysWho? said: She had to delete an earlier tweet because, while I'm pretty sure she meant that people were tweeting this at her, it sounded off. Although her new tweet still sounds bad: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 1 hour ago, stepee said: I was going to be upset at the misdirect but the video was actually worth it. I felt it had to be a very good video to do that. Episodes 5, 8 and 10 are my favs besides number 1, but they're all good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, Jason said: Seriously, the media needs to step up on this. I see everyone on Twitter questioning it but no one says it on television. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 29 minutes ago, Jason said: This will never happen. Trump's mental unfitness is entertaining and cartoonish, so the media gives it a pass, assuming it's just 'showmanship' and not the result of a serious mental condition--or at least pretending that's the case, because it gets them lots of clicks. Biden's mental unfitness reminds everyone of that relative they have whose sundowners is slowly getting worse...it's not entertaining; it's kind of tragic, and will be portrayed as such, since portraying it as such will generate more clicks than ignoring it. I know many's first instinct will be to portray it all as a conspiracy against Biden/Dems/liberals/etc., but I think it's honestly just a result of the shit incentives of modern day media. Said incentives have always been bad, but social media has made them monstrously bad by making it an arms race for who can get the most clicks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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