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Joe Biden beats Donald Trump, officially making Trump a one-term twice impeached, twice popular-vote losing president


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And I don't see why Sanders fans can't realize the way that Bernie has treated her and the way he's allowed his fans to treat her means that they don't get to be upset when she doesn't turn around and embrace him. She doesn't have to agree that he'd be better than Biden in enacting progressive legislation. Bernie does not own progressivism, liberalism, or socialism. 

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Just now, Jose said:

 

To be fair you think every candidate not named Bernard is terrible.

True! Others had upsides and downsides, but I think the downsides to Biden are second only to bloomy. He's literally losing his mind.

 

I'd actually vote for Biden, something I can't say about bloomy. I'd hate it though.

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It's no secret I'm for Warren but when it comes to Biden I'm seriously confused as to how anyone can make the argument he's the least likely to win when that argument is based on nothing. All available data says he's the guy, even (and especially) over Warren. Why can't some people look at reality and admit the truth?

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1 minute ago, Anathema- said:

It's no secret I'm for Warren but when it comes to Biden I'm seriously confused as to how anyone can make the argument he's the least likely to win when that argument is based on nothing. All available data says he's the guy, even (and especially) over Warren. Why can't some people look at reality and admit the truth?

 

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1 minute ago, SaysWho? said:

Super Tuesday gon' be crazy.

 

It's going to be interesting to see how the early vote will affect things. Bernie is pretty good at getting those votes locked in before the actual election date, but will they be the leaners, or the people who would have voted for him no matter what?

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9 minutes ago, Anathema- said:

It's no secret I'm for Warren but when it comes to Biden I'm seriously confused as to how anyone can make the argument he's the least likely to win when that argument is based on nothing. All available data says he's the guy, even (and especially) over Warren. Why can't some people look at reality and admit the truth?

I was told general election polls mean nothing right now, or at least that's what is said when current data has Bernie as polling the best against Trump, has the best favorables within the party at large, etc.

 

For all the hand wringing about the SOCIALIST label Bernie gets, how that means he hasn't been properly vetted, maybe we should be more concerned with nominating a guy who just isn't there mentally anymore. The impressions people have of joe are largely based on his time as VP and not his ....current state.

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I guess the good news is the DNC has until July to figure out if it is better that Biden lose to Trump (and therefore Ukraine his legacy as a popular former VP plus piss off progressives in 2022/2024) or Bernie lose to Trump (and put the progressive cause to bed for decades). 

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2 minutes ago, mclumber1 said:

 

Maybe not everyone is on board with Sanders' vision for America?

 

Yeah, better to stick to Joe Biden, who literally told Wall Street fat cats behind closed doors that "don't worry, nothing will change under my leadership". It's been going great for the country to keep doing the same thing we've been doing that led us to all our current problems in the first place. :p 

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9 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

I was told general election polls mean nothing right now, or at least that's what is said when current data has Bernie as polling the best against Trump, has the best favorables within the party at large, etc.

 

For all the hand wringing about the SOCIALIST label Bernie gets, how that means he hasn't been properly vetted, maybe we should be more concerned with nominating a guy who just isn't there mentally anymore. The impressions people have of joe are largely based on his time as VP and not his ....current state.

 

The GE polls have them about even anyway.

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Just now, Anathema- said:

Weird how Biden's mental health is a five alarm concern but Bernie's fucking heart attack is something we'd be goddamn morons to worry about. The double standards are as astounding as they are obvious. 

 

Eh, I disagree here pretty strongly. I'm about as big of a Bernie skeptic as there is, but it's clear that the heart attack has not hindered him in any way. Biden's mental health is a constant issue on display.

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Just now, Anathema- said:

Weird how Biden's mental health is a five alarm concern but Bernie's fucking heart attack is something we'd be goddamn morons to worry about. The double standards are as astounding as they are obvious. 

If we're doing the tit for tat on old men with health problems, maybe consider Joe's brain aneurysms.

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