Brick Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Buttigieg had no business being president. This was a good video about him Warren is still the best choice, but she might be too smart for the dumbfucks and scare them away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Brick said: Warren is still the best choice, but she might be too smart for the dumbfucks and scare them away. I kind of wonder why Warren hasn't resonated better with people. She's actually really good at breaking down her policies and being able to explain them directly to someone. The Vox video on her covered some of that but there are many good examples out there. I also do agree that I think she is the best choice in this field (bern being second to at least try to shift the overtone to the left) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littleronin Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Because she isnt a rock star personality. And we American really enjoy our star fucking. We have been doing it since Washington, which makes it American as apple pie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Warren is to shrill to be presidential. Plus she is incredibly dodgy when it comes to how she pays for all of these programs she wants. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: Warren is to shrill to be presidential. I don't like Warren, but this is a sexism 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 14 minutes ago, chakoo said: I kind of wonder why Warren hasn't resonated better with people. She's actually really good at breaking down her policies and being able to explain them directly to someone. The Vox video on her covered some of that but there are many good examples out there. I also do agree that I think she is the best choice in this field (bern being second to at least try to shift the overtone to the left) I saw a suggestion recently that she talks too wonky/college educated for a lot of people. The same person also suggested that college educated people don't see anything wrong with the way she speaks because they're used to it, and can't appreciate why it doesn't connect. Compare to someone like Bernie who's better at getting the points across in a way that you don't have to be college educated to connect with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Just now, b_m_b_m_b_m said: I don't like Warren, but this is a sexism It's not sexism. Her speaking gate is awkward and doesn't instill confidence. I think O'Rourke was in the same category. Now I didn't agree with either of the policy positions admittedly, but they were both bad speakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: It's not sexism. Her speaking gate is awkward and doesn't instill confidence. I think O'Rourke was in the same category. Now I didn't agree with either of the policy positions admittedly, but they were both bad speakers. I'd bet folding money that you or no one else would ever describe Beto as "shrill". Just sayin... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: I'd bet folding money that you or no one else would ever describe Beto as "shrill". Just sayin... Yeah I guess a poor choice of words on my part to describe Warren. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 "Shrill" is invariably applied to women, without exception. It's become inherently sexist terminology because of that. I'm betting that Biden promised the Mayoist either Defense or National Security Advisor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 58 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: "Shrill" is invariably applied to women, without exception. It's become inherently sexist terminology because of that. I'm betting that Biden promised the Mayoist either Defense or National Security Advisor. I wouldn't be surprised if he was offered a cabinet position by both Biden and Sanders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 If Warren is the nominee you’re going to hear guys say she’s shrill and that it’s not that they don’t think we’re ready for a woman president, just not that woman as president. The same thing they’d say no matter who the woman on a Democratic ticket would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 16 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: I wouldn't be surprised if he was offered a cabinet position by both Biden and Sanders. Sanders ain't offering the Mayoist jack squat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: Sanders ain't offering the Mayoist jack squat. What about the front of the line in Central Park? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Tbf I'd rather be called shrill than a rat-fuck-face insincerity robot. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Someone on CNN was saying that Biden's team has also talked to Klubochar, but want her to remain in until after ST because otherwise Sanders runs away with Minnesota. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 12 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Someone on CNN was saying that Biden's team has also talked to Klubochar, but want her to remain in until after ST because otherwise Sanders runs away with Minnesota. Warren already asked Klobuchar to do the same. Sanders is getting boned and this is what will actually lead to his people staying home in November. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 24 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Warren already asked Klobuchar to do the same. Sanders is getting boned and this is what will actually lead to his people staying home in November. Just an example of liberals letting perfect be the enemy of good. We're fucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 The entire primary system is dumb. If you held a single, ranked-choice ballot after a 3-month leadership campaign then you'd have less hurt feelings. Yes, that means lesser-known people won't win, blah blah. But it also avoids this entire dumb horse race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 7 hours ago, Spawn_of_Apathy said: If Warren is the nominee you’re going to hear guys say she’s shrill and that it’s not that they don’t think we’re ready for a woman president, just not that woman as president. The same thing they’d say no matter who the woman on a Democratic ticket would be. I mean you guys already had that with Hillary Clinton; "it's time for a woman president, just not this woman". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SaysWho? Posted March 2, 2020 Author Share Posted March 2, 2020 Here's what I learned about that guy: He's going to drive @GeneticBlueprint out of his mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 1 minute ago, SaysWho? said: Here's what I learned about that guy: He's going to... Checks Notes... drive @GeneticBlueprint out of his mind. Fixed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore D Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 10 hours ago, Spawn_of_Apathy said: If Warren is the nominee you’re going to hear guys say she’s shrill and that it’s not that they don’t think we’re ready for a woman president, just not that woman as president. The same thing they’d say no matter who the woman on a Democratic ticket would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, Commodore D said: Except she’s got a really deep voice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted March 2, 2020 Author Share Posted March 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, Commodore D said: They only have good things to say about her because she has no chance of winning. They were complimenting Hillary in 2008 to try to siphon her voters from Obama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore D Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 24 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: She’s got a really soothing voice. Fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbobo Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 77 year old Joe Biden is now the youngest person that has a realistic chance of winning the dem nomination. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Not looking good: Hopefully Bernie can run up the Latino vote like he did in Nevada and beat expectations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted March 2, 2020 Author Share Posted March 2, 2020 Obama congratulates Biden but is not yet endorsing anyone Quote But more importantly, Obama still thinks his most valuable role is to try and unify the party. "He feels that he's singularly positioned to help unify the party at the end of this," the Obama confidant said. "And if he were try to put his thumb on the scale now, it would take away his ability to do so when it's most needed -- the general election." The person added: "So he's prepared to play a vigorous role in coalescing the party around the nominee and working to defeat Trump, but weighing in now likely only divides things worse and weakens his standing for when the Party will need it most." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 The one advantage Bernie has in the ST states is ground game. Biden has apparently done nothing in them. He has a single campaign office for all of California. So there is a good chance that Bernie will outperform the polls in many close states due to his get-out-the-vote team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted March 2, 2020 Author Share Posted March 2, 2020 I can see that, and I can also see how Biden would do well if the older voters will vote anyway without a GOTV operation. Then again, GOTV operations are good at getting unlikely voters, so we'll see! I'll vote for Biden in the general, but I'd be more excited about Sanders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 3 hours ago, Commodore D said: Conservatives like Tulsi because she’s hot. That’s it. And for some stupid reason likes to appear on Tucker Carlson’s White Power Hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-buttigieg-dropping-out-isnt-good-for-sanders/ Quote At first glance, this might seem counterintuitive. How does a candidate dropping out increase the likelihood of no majority? Shouldn’t it clear the field up and make it easier to achieve a majority? The key is in how the Democrats’ delegate math works. The rules require candidates to receive at least 15 percent of the vote, typically, to win delegates statewide or at the district-level. Buttigieg was projected to get under 15 percent in the vast majority of states and districts on Super Tuesday. Thus, his votes were essentially wasted. Redistributing his votes to other candidates will help them to meet the 15 percent threshold, however. In particular, Sen. Elizabeth Warren and former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg were both close to the 15 percent line in many states or districts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Remember when I said the most likely outcome is nobody getting the nomination on the first ballot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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