Massdriver Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 10 minutes ago, Jose said: When they show that clip from 40 years ago at every chance, what is he supposed to do? How is he supposed to respond?Again, his defense of some of Cuba's policies was prompted. He did not bring it up. Say his views have changed on Cuba and pivot to European social democracy as what he is looking towards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: Is that really a downvote? I thought it gave reputation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 Just now, Massdriver said: Is that really a downvote? I thought it gave reputation. It's the closest thing I can think of Besides, do you want BAD rep?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Just now, SaysWho? said: It's the closest thing I can think of Besides, do you want BAD rep?! I don't want it, but I know the politics of the board! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimpleG Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 45 minutes ago, sblfilms said: I pulled the lever for Warren for Dem nominee today. God help me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, Massdriver said: Is that really a downvote? I thought it gave reputation. It does not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 minute ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: It does not. In that case, I'm surprised I don't get more of those! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Just now, Massdriver said: In that case, I'm surprised I don't get more of those! Your positions are arrived at honestly and well thought-out. And not extreme. It's not like you're a certain video disc format or an Indian guy whose imaginary girlfriend is going to prove all of us wrong about evolution. 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 https://vm.tiktok.com/bxtgCw/ Internet, I love thee. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 28 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: Your positions are arrived at honestly and well thought-out. And not extreme. It's not like you're a certain video disc format or an Indian guy whose imaginary girlfriend is going to prove all of us wrong about evolution. Girlfriend turn pregnant wife turned mother in the span of three months or so. I was quite impressed with that turnaround. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 54 minutes ago, Massdriver said: but explaining and understanding why something came about doesn't mean you justified it morally Then there are many cases where violence can never be justified, even when there is no legitimate peaceful way to change the status quo. The Cubans traded a right wing dictatorship (backed and protected by American merchant interests) into a left wing one. And given the track record of the CIA towards democraticlly elected leftist governments in Latin America, it's none too surprising that there is/was political repression. 31 minutes ago, Massdriver said: Say his views have changed on Cuba and pivot to European social democracy as what he is looking towards. "Why is bernie pivoting from answering questions about Cuba? What is he trying to hide?" He can't win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 53 minutes ago, Massdriver said: Say his views have changed on Cuba and pivot to European social democracy as what he is looking towards. Sanders has made too big of a stink about how he’s held the same views forever. He also really hasn’t changed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 What say you People's Court of Central Park? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Jose said: Yeah, I was wrong there. Little late in the day. Still, they are not the reason Clinton lost Florida. But they could be the reason Sanders does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Jwheel86 said: Can we just forget Florida and go for a state where Democrats win statewide? Something like this- I think Pennsylvania could easily slip out of Sanders’ hands, if he’s the nominee. It just became the #2 oil producing state behind Texas due to the fracking boom, and Sanders has ‘ban fracking everywhere’ as a key policy proposal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 42 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said: What say you People's Court of Central Park? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Get in losers Bernies winning Florida in the general Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SaysWho? Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 Leaked Bloomberg audio calls his endorsement of Obama "backhanded," calls Warren's ideology scary. Quote In his comments from 2016, however, Bloomberg said he believed Utah Senator Mitt Romney would have made a better president. "The second Obama election, I wrote a great backhanded endorsement of Obama saying I thought he hadn't done the right thing, hadn't done, hadn't been good at things that I think are important and Romney would be a better person at doing that," Bloomberg said. "But Romney did not stick with the values that he had when he was governor of Massachusetts." Bloomberg liked that Romney was more socially liberal -- pro-immigration, pro-gay rights, pro-choice -- but didn't like that he changed positions on those issues. Quote Bloomberg also referred to Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren in his remarks, implying that Warren was "scary" because of her progressive policies. "The left is arising," Bloomberg said. "The progressive movement is just as scary. Elizabeth Warren on one side and whoever you want to pick on the Republicans on the right side?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 Here's some more of what he talked about: On banks: Quote "Well, to start, my first campaign platform would be to defend the banks, and you know how well that's gonna sell in this country," Bloomberg said in his remarks. "But seriously," he went on, "somebody's gotta stand up and do what we need. A healthy banking system that's going to take risks because that's what creates the jobs for everybody. And nobody's willing to say that. The trouble is, these campaigns in this day and age, really are about slogans and not about issues anymore. And in this election you're going to see people are voting and they either love or hate, mostly hate both, but who you hate the least. That's what they're going to vote for. And they're not going to vote on issues." Income inequality: Quote "Look at the income inequality," he said. "Anytime we've had this before, society blows up and they do set up the guillotines and the guillotines don't have to be chop your head off. They could be confiscatory taxes, they could be seizing the endowments of uh, educational institutions and um, philanthropic organizations, all of which those proposals are out there. You know, you're going to have to do something about this income inequality and a lot of it comes from zero interest rates." Elsewhere in the talk, Bloomberg suggested a New Deal-type solution to income inequality, saying "maybe the answer is another WPA because the corporate world's not going to do it there." "The ways you get Congress to work for you is the ways you deal with your family," Bloomberg said. "You bribe them. You say to your kid, you say to your kid to 'clean your room or you don't get your allowance.' That's a bribe, I'm sorry." On donating to Pat Toomey: Quote In other comments, Bloomberg explained he backed Pennsylvania Republican Sen. Pat Toomey's reelection that year, even though he disagreed with him on most issues, because he supported his signature issue of guns. Democrats have criticized Bloomberg for his support of a small number of Republican candidates as late as the 2018 midterm elections. On coal: Quote "Anything's better than coal, and then you push in the problem," he said. "What do you do with the poor coal miner who's out of a job? I understand that nobody's suggesting we shouldn't help the coal miner. But if I say to you, uh, Alex, there's 100,000 lives or maybe all the lives on the planet versus, you know, 200 jobs, it seems like an easy decision to make. I'm not suggesting we walk away from the coal miner. I'm suggesting you don't stop being intelligent and stop using the most polluting thing that we have in this country, in the world. And it's going to be a tough battle." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 If this doesn't clinch your vote nothing will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 I’m wondering if the Trump attack machine won’t start revving up its anti-Bernie weaponry in earnest if he does really well on Super Tuesday. That’d either get them a head start on their general election strategy or help foment a brokered convention, which would also help them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 I think what he meant was, "I'm running for president. If not, vote for the other guy," but he said Bi or nearly said Biden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 2 hours ago, SaysWho? said: Leaked Bloomberg audio calls his endorsement of Obama "backhanded," calls Warren's ideology scary. Bloomberg liked that Romney was more socially liberal -- pro-immigration, pro-gay rights, pro-choice -- but didn't like that he changed positions on those issues. 2016 Bloomberg thought Warren was scary? You ain't seen nothing yet, bitch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 http://scaremikebloomberg.com This is real lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said: I’m wondering if the Trump attack machine won’t start revving up its anti-Bernie weaponry in earnest if he does really well on Super Tuesday. That’d either get them a head start on their general election strategy or help foment a brokered convention, which would also help them. Trump is already seeding the brokered convention narrative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 hour ago, SaysWho? said: I think what he meant was, "I'm running for president. If not, vote for the other guy," but he said Bi or nearly said Biden. Since the tweet got eaten 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 So is this Bloomberg fake vandalism thing a thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 The rocks are in a pile because people probably swept up the glass inside already, piling the rocks with them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, CayceG said: The rocks are in a pile because people probably swept up the glass inside already, piling the rocks with them. But the glass is on the outside of the windows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 21 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: But the glass is on the outside of the windows. That also sometimes happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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