CitizenVectron Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Breakout of that poll: Right up until the day the general election is held, I still expect the media to be asking "But can Bernie pull in minority voters, or will he only have his 18-year old, male base?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Take with a grain of salt, but DFP had the closest polls in Iowa and NH. Only thing they missed by more than 3% was Klobuchar in NH: 35% + 16% = 51% progressive! Do we get to pull that meme if this is the result? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, Ghost_MH said: But they do. The only reason Trump's executive orders haven't all been overturned is because Republicans in Congress won't back any legislation to overturn them. So again, which Democrats in Congress are going to allow any racist executive orders to continue unchallenged? That's not how EOs work. They are interpreting existing statuatory authority/directing appropriate agencies on how to use funds as appropriated by Congress. For Congress to override them on a sitting POTUS, they need to be able to override a veto. Same for the use of the Congressional review act for major agency regulations. Needless to say, this majority will not appear to overturn Republican aligned policy. When it comes to things like refugee resettlement numbers, the remain in Mexico policy, ICE raids in US cities, etc. Bloomberg would have to take an affirmative step to undo these policies. Based on what he has said *prior to his run for president* (and after he stopped funding Republican candidates for office) and what he had done as mayor of the largest city in the country, why should you believe he'd do anything he says now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 hour ago, CitizenVectron said: Take with a grain of salt, but DFP had the closest polls in Iowa and NH. Only thing they missed by more than 3% was Klobuchar in NH: I hope that's more like it, though Nevada is notoriously difficult to poll. Bernie seems to poll well with Hispanic Democrats, so if the Nevada polling error is like it is in general elections, that could be good for him. But that's also me hoping he does well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 hour ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: That's not how EOs work. They are interpreting existing statuatory authority/directing appropriate agencies on how to use funds as appropriated by Congress. For Congress to override them on a sitting POTUS, they need to be able to override a veto. Same for the use of the Congressional review act for major agency regulations. Needless to say, this majority will not appear to overturn Republican aligned policy. When it comes to things like refugee resettlement numbers, the remain in Mexico policy, ICE raids in US cities, etc. Bloomberg would have to take an affirmative step to undo these policies. Based on what he has said *prior to his run for president* (and after he stopped funding Republican candidates for office) and what he had done as mayor of the largest city in the country, why should you believe he'd do anything he says now? Immigration is good for his business buddies, that’s why he’ll reverse course on a lot of that stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 Bloomberg qualifies for the Nevada debate despite not even being in the caucus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 More than 17,000 showed up to a Sanders Tacoma rally: Hell if I know if he's actually going to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dodger said: Whoever did this should have put, "Okay, yeah. Good," for Bernie just cuz. Now I'm irrationally angry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 5 hours ago, SaysWho? said: Bloomberg qualifies for the Nevada debate despite not even being in the caucus. Sweet! Get his ass out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbobo Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 2 weeks till super Tuesday after which we should have this field down to 3 or 4 and see if we are in for brokered convention or if Sanders is going to run away with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 I know what Sanders' strategy will be against Bloomberg in the debate. And I know the buying elections argument works and is something Buttigieg/Biden/Klobuchar can and will bring up, as well as Warren. But I'm very curious what other strategies they use against Bloomberg. And Steyer, for that matter, being the billionaire who's not spending what Bloomberg is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 What Obama Is Saying in Private About the Democratic Primary Quote t also reflects a choreographed strategy. With the race looking more and more likely to grow bitter and messy, and maybe even wind up in a contested convention, the former president and those around him are increasingly sure he will need to play a prominent role in bringing the party back together and calming its tensions later this summer, including perhaps in Milwaukee, where the party’s meeting is scheduled to be held in July. So he is committed to not allowing his personal thoughts to dribble out in the meantime, directly or via leaks, conscious of how any sense that he’s taking sides in intraparty disputes could rock the primary in the short run and potentially undermine his ability to play this larger role in the months ahead. Quote He speaks with fewer people regularly about politics than ever — he rarely even talks with Tom Perez Quote But this isn’t just about distance from the action, either — it’s also because he doesn’t want to provide Trump with a political foil, and because he wants a new generation of Democratic leaders to step up, and to stop relying on him. (He’s only gotten directly involved in one domestic political fight since Trump was elected, working behind the scenes to help save the Affordable Care Act.) Quote Privately, he reminds friends that the views of the candidate — even if it’s Sanders, whose democratic socialism is a significant break from Obama’s technocratic progressivism — will more closely reflect not just his values, but Democrats’ and the nations’, than Trump’s. He often adds that he expects to campaign often and loudly in the general election, even if he has to step in to try and unite liberals, moderates, and progressives beforehand. Good attitude, and I hope he really does continue this. If that really is his attitude toward Sanders or even Warren, then that's actually a good pragmatism I can get behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 Also: Quote Anyway, Obama’s team has made clear to Sanders’ inner circle that the former president has no intention of getting involved in the primary. And people from both camps who are familiar with the discussions say the pair has also spoken directly during this election cycle. Top Sanders advisors accordingly viewed the Fox Business report as a case of rogue former Obama aides speaking wishfully and out of turn, rather than a preview of things to come. (The Democratic establishment backlash will be fierce if Sanders starts running away with the nomination, they’re sure, but it won’t come from the ex-president.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 22 hours ago, SaysWho? said: lol you're not me Eat ur heart out fool 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 I haven't watch much of the debates, but I might actually turn this one on to watch everyone go after Bloomberg. I feel like everyone else on stage has pretty good reason to go after him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 I hope it’s a fucking bloodbath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 I don't know if it will matter if Bloomberg is beat up. He's proving all you have to do is run commercials to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Trump is correct on that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 18 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Trump is correct on that one. No one knows corruption like the Donald. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Massdriver said: I don't know if it will matter if Bloomberg is beat up. He's proving all you have to do is run commercials to win. Run commercials unopposed and not responding directly from candidates. He's raising his poll numbers in Super Tuesday states, which is having an effect on his national numbers. We'll see how this translates when he faces more resistance from other candidates and when other candidates run ads in those places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: Run commercials unopposed and not responding directly from candidates. He's raising his poll numbers in Super Tuesday states, which is having an effect on his national numbers. We'll see how this translates when he faces more resistance from other candidates and when other candidates run ads in those places. Also his ads are deceptive. One I heard is basically Obama saying nice things about Mike somehow implying his endorsement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Warren is at her best when talking about corruption. I hope she savages Bloomberg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jwheel86 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 If this is the result Bernie could be the only one qualifying for any of California's 400+ delegates. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 minute ago, thewhyteboar said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said: Will that type of pandering work? You Beto believe it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 The Beto thing is real. Dude's fluent in Spanish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 39 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said: lol would he before? That's dumb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 14 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said: Jesus FUCK it's cringe (only clip I could find) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Jesus christ. It's like an episode of Veep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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