Ghost_MH Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, stepee said: lol wait I thought this was parody but then saw the video wtf Wait, what? I also thought that tweet was satire or just exaggeration, but he really said the words "lying dog-faced pony soldier"? What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted February 10, 2020 Author Share Posted February 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Ghost_MH said: Wait, what? I also thought that tweet was satire or just exaggeration, but he really said the words "lying dog-faced pony soldier"? What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 11 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: What's gonna keep him from a third party run if Sanders or Warren (the two with a wealth tax proposal which could seriously, materially impact him on a personal level) is the Democratic nominee? Has this former Republican been asked if he has committed to supporting the Dem nominee, or only to go after Trump? https://nyti.ms/2NcugXZ The former. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 The NRA spends like $5 million a year on lobbying. I don’t know why people think they spend so much money. Google as a comparison spends $15-20 million a year on lobbying. The power of the NRA is not in the dollars it spends, but in the way it’s painted itself as the last line of defense against tyrants who want to take your guns. And amusingly, liberals calling out the NRA all the time plays directly into that narrative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Just join the SRA to really put the NRA's nose out-of-joint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 14 minutes ago, Jose said: https://nyti.ms/2NcugXZ The former. The follow up is: why should we believe this given his track record? There's no one to hold him accountable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 47 minutes ago, sblfilms said: To the best of my knowledge, Citizens United has no effect on individuals spending their own money on their own campaign. Haha, which is why I said "among other things", I was just casting a wide net was all. I even remember when I was specifically typing "among other things" to cover my ass due to your pedantic self. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 51 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: I think Jose means the money he's spent on stuff like gun control, which has combated the money the NRA has spent. The overlying problem I'm assuming you have with it is the fact that we have to count on rich people to counter rich people, which I agree with. And I am concerned about the conflict of interest. That is indeed my problem! Among other things with him as @b_m_b_m_b_m explains. 50 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: For the grief Liz gets/got for being a republican until the 90's (and was never elected as one) Bloomberg seems to be getting a pass because of the money he can spend on one singular issue: gun control. It's not even like he consistently gives money to the Dems: he just recently (2016) spent millions helping Republican Pat Toomey keep his Senate seat in PA, which he won by 1.5%. Mike was elected as a republican. He praised George W Bush for fucks sake. He's awful, and this barely scratches the surface. Fuck Mike Bloomberg Yeah, I really don't like him on a lot of levels. These are excellent points. 38 minutes ago, Jose said: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/bloomberg-fund-sizable-campaign-effort-through-november-even-if-he-n1113421 https://www.factcheck.org/2018/04/nextgen-climate-action-committee/ I dont want either of these dudes anywhere near the presidency, but let them do their thing. But "letting them do their thing" is causing them to be near the Presidency now, which is my problem . . . That's what ungodly amounts of money grants you, and it's a scary thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 35 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: “jokes” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Just bananas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 1 hour ago, SaysWho? said: Having watched that video, he definitely sounded like he was joking around with her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, MarSolo said: Having watched that video, he definitely sounded like he was joking around with her. It’s a quote from a movie. He was definitely kidding around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, sblfilms said: It’s a quote from a movie. He was definitely kidding around. Context and knowing your audience is important, I suppose. If I were a politician giving a speech in front of a bunch of motorcycle enthusiasts and I quoted the South Park episode where the kids are calling Harley riders "fags", it might not go over very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 I mean, it was either name calling a woman or just a really stupid thing to say. Either way it’s a bad look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Biden's African-American support has totally collapsed according to latest Quinnipac poll. The main beneficiary: Bloomberg. Quote Biden has long benefited from strong support among black voters in his presidential bid. The latest Quinnipiac poll, however, showed Bloomberg cutting into that support. The former vice president took 27 percent support among black voters in the survey, down from 49 percent in the January poll, while Bloomberg notched 22 percent support, up from just 7 percent last month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Yeah, Biden is finished: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbobo Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 How the hell is stop and frisk Bloomberg doing well with black voters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, elbobo said: How the hell is stop and frisk Bloomberg doing well with black voters? He's blitzed the media markets in the South without any opposition so far. That's about to change as you can be sure that the Mike "Stop & Frisk" Bloomberg ads will run after NH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Literally any group just needs to throw a lot of money at tv ads that has Bloomberg saying stop and frisk stopped too many whites and not enough blacks. Since Bloomberg "isn't" running in the general if he doesn't get the nomination, there's no real downside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: He's blitzed the media markets in the South without any opposition so far. That's about to change. And he's blitzed it with pictures of him and Obama hugging it out and being buddy-buddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Is this being cucked? Or bribed? Asking for a friend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted February 10, 2020 Author Share Posted February 10, 2020 William Weld wins one of Iowa's delegates, preventing Trump from sweeping all of Iowa's delegates. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baconbits Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 39 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Yeah, Biden is finished: Remember when Bernie wasn't a viable candidate because his polling was bad with minorities? Media seems to not give a shit about that with Pete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Sanders and Buttigieg have formally requested an Iowa recanvass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 8 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: You know, the thing that's really sticking in my craw regarding primary polling -- the number of undecided voters. 36% in this poll! It makes me really wonder how accurate primary polling is with regards to its predictive capacity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted February 10, 2020 Author Share Posted February 10, 2020 Just now, Anathema- said: You know, the thing that's really sticking in my craw regarding primary polling -- the number of undecided voters. 36% in this poll! It makes me really wonder how accurate primary polling is with regards to its predictive capacity. Multiple candidates being polled + many undecideds = I have no clue what's happening Tuesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 21 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: Sanders and Buttigieg have formally requested an Iowa recanvass. Too late Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: Multiple candidates being polled + many undecideds = I have no clue what's happening Tuesday. What's more is that I don't understand the difference between the 36% undecided and the 38% uncertain. I'm sure there's a lot of overlap but it's not all overlap. New Hampshire being New Hampshire though I could easily see Klobuchar coming out in second with a late break. They get pretty silly up there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Too late Not if you're planning for a contested convention Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Too late Like WAY too late. There are important details to straighten out, loose ends to tighten, people to fire .. But the benefit to declaring victory has gone. Differences of a couple delegates won't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Just now, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Not if you're planning for a contested convention Bernie with 780 or 781 and Pete with 534 or 535 won't make a spit of difference in a contested convention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Anathema- said: Bernie with 780 or 781 and Pete with 534 or 535 won't make a spit of difference in a contested convention. If you're thinking coalitions, and trying to avoid a second round of voting, every one counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Not if you're planning for a contested convention At the most the national delegate difference In Iowa is +2 for Buttigieg. I’ll eat my shoe if 2 delegates is the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Just now, b_m_b_m_b_m said: If you're thinking coalitions, and trying to avoid a second round of voting, every one counts. Like, if you really want to game things out there's also something to be said for being gracious (especially when the details really don't matter; the IDP numbers are far past trustworthy even with a recanvass) -- something neither of these candidates are showing with this kind of focus. If coalition building is essential to winning a brokered convention then get ready to welcome your 2020 nominee Elizabeth Warren. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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