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Joe Biden beats Donald Trump, officially making Trump a one-term twice impeached, twice popular-vote losing president


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1 hour ago, PaladinSolo said:

Only an idiot thinks bloomberg being in the debate hurts sanders, lol.

It gives a viable centrist/center right option other than Biden for round two of voting at the convention. Right now it is helping Bernie.

 

That said, there's three big problems with him getting on the debate stage now, and one decently good argument for letting him on:

Let him on: he's spending virtually unlimited money on his propaganda without any real push back.

 

Keep him off: he's spending virtually unlimited money on his propaganda. This is bad for democracy.

They changed the rules for a guy buying his way on, but not for those diverse candidates who had some, but not great support from a while back.

Lastly and most importantly, there is a genuine fear that Bloomberg is setting the foundation of the third party general election campaign should Bernie or Warren win the nomination because while they differ in very important ways, they both represent, and I assume would continue to push for, a genuine threat to Bloomberg's (and other billionaires) personal power and fortune

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31 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said:

I mean ok, but gotta take the house back lol.

The point of Bidens pitch is Republicans will have a change of heart after Trump and work with him for the good of the country, which we all know is just goddamn stupid, and the Republicans are saying it out loud that they won't work with him, they want to get rid of him

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From the other thread, here's who's left:

 

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Michael Bennet - U.S. Senator from Colorado

 

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Joe Biden - Former Vice President of the United States

 

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Michael Bloomberg - Former Mayor of New York City

 

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Pete Buttigieg - Mayor of South Bend 

 

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Tulsi Gabbard - US Representative from Hawaii's 2nd District 

 

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Amy Klobuchar - US Senator from Minnesota

 

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Deval Patrick - Former Governor of Massachusetts

 

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Bernie Sanders - US Senator from Vermont

 

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Tom Steyer - Billionaire Hedge Fund Manager

 

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Elizabeth Warren - US Senator from Massachusetts

 

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Andrew Yang - Entrepreneur and founder of Venture for America

 

 

DROPPED OUT

 

Bill de Blasio - Mayor of New York City

Cory Booker - US Senator from New Jersey

Steve Bullock - Governor of Montana

Julián Castro - Former mayor of San Antonio and Former Secretary of House and Urban Development under Obama

John Delaney - Former US Representative of Maryland's 6th District

Kirsten Gillibrand - US Senator from New York

Mike Gravel - Former Senator from Alaska

Kamala Harris - US Senator from California

John Hickenlooper - Former Governor of Colorado

Jay Inslee - Governor of Washington

Wayne Messam - Mayor from Miramar, Florida

Seth Moulton - US Representative from Massachusetts

Richard Ojeda - Former State Senator from West Virginia

Beto O'Rourke - Former US Representative from Texas

Tim Ryan - US Representative from Ohio

Joe Sestak - Former U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania

Eric Swalwell - U.S. Representative from California

Marianne Williamson - Activist

 

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