b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 5 hours ago, MarSolo said: I don’t like Rogan, but his endorsement of Bernie is one of the best things that could happen to Sanders, as he does have that alt-right following and these clowns would register as Dems to vote for him to “own the libs”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baconbits Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 7 hours ago, MarSolo said: I don’t like Rogan, but his endorsement of Bernie is one of the best things that could happen to Sanders, as he does have that alt-right following and these clowns would register as Dems to vote for him to “own the libs”. Kind of makes you wonder how some Trump voters would actually react to Trump Vs. Sanders. Do they vote Trump to own the libs or vote Sanders to own the establishment & stick it to the Clinton's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 That paper endorsed Warren lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 44 minutes ago, johnny said: That paper endorsed Warren lol sup bitches 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 Might be enough to get her a surprise second place finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 I’ve come around on Bernie...I still fucking hate his online following, and I think Warren would be the better President, but goddamn that Overton window shift would be incredible. And the idea of an ‘Organizer in Chief’ actually inspires a modicum of hope that the balance of political power may be able to shift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 3 hours ago, Anathema- said: Might be enough to get her a surprise second place finish. That would effectively end the Mayoist campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 Imagine a Bernie/Warren administration where Bernie is out-and-about or utilizing the bully pulpit and Warren translates his ideas into functional policy proposals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, Chris- said: Imagine a Bernie/Warren administration where Bernie is out-and-about or utilizing the bully pulpit and Warren translates his ideas into functional policy proposals. Anyone who thinks Warren won't be a big part of a Bernie admin isn't paying attention. His campaign looked into her being both VP and treasury secretary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Chris- said: I’ve come around on Bernie...I still fucking hate his online following So... Bernie = Rick & Morty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 5 hours ago, Spork3245 said: So... Bernie = Rick & Morty? You mean you don't like this community made, high quality, not cringe inducing, content? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 16 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: You mean you don't like this community made, high quality, not cringe inducing, content? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baconbits Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 9 hours ago, Chris- said: I’ve come around on Bernie...I still fucking hate his online following, and I think Warren would be the better President, but goddamn that Overton window shift would be incredible. And the idea of an ‘Organizer in Chief’ actually inspires a modicum of hope that the balance of political power may be able to shift. Focus on the person running & the issues they're running on & stop caring so much about what people are fighting about on social media, it's just a bunch of noise & a waste of time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Just one poll, but: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Emerson isn't always the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 The Iowa polls are all over the place right now. I'd say Bernie is the favorite atm, which is nuts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Does the caucus system make it more difficult to poll? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baconbits Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 41 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Does the caucus system make it more difficult to poll? Yes because it's a bunch of people hanging out in a gym trying to pull groups to their side. Then if you don't get a certain #of people in your group to meet the threshold you are forced to pick another group & the tug of war begins again. It's absolutely bonkers & comes down to who can turnout the most for their pep rally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, baconbits said: Yes because it's a bunch of people hanging out in a gym trying to pull groups to their side. Then if you don't get a certain #of people in your group to meet the threshold you are forced to pick another group & the tug of war begins again. It's absolutely bonkers & comes down to who can turnout the most for their pep rally. This would be my assumption just from reading descriptions. I guess that may be why things like “second choice” matter more in caucuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baconbits Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 minute ago, sblfilms said: This would be my assumption just from reading descriptions. I guess that may be why things like “second choice” matter more in caucuses. That's a good point, I didn't think to connect that together. We should also keep in mind that there are a LOT of undecided voters out there in these polls, ranging between 10-20% (and sometimes pushing 30% but it has tightened up a bit since). Those people will be swayed at these caucuses by whoever has the bigger group. 2016 got a little heated during these caucuses with supporters & I bet it's going to be even more elevated this time around. Should be fun... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 29 minutes ago, sblfilms said: This would be my assumption just from reading descriptions. I guess that may be why things like “second choice” matter more in caucuses. Second choice only matters if your candidate gets less than 15%. Warren is around that mark, so her underperforming by a few % could give big gains to Bernie. Or the opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Let's not forget the DMR bump is supposedly huge. Curious to see new polls that reflect it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baconbits Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Jose said: Let's not forget the DMR bump is supposedly huge. Curious to see new polls that reflect it. It's really not that special, polling before actual vote change 1988 D Paul Simon 16.7% 26.7% 10.0 1988 R Bob Dole 43.0 37.4 -5.6 1996 R Bob Dole 34.0 26.3 -7.7 2000 D Bill Bradley 30.6 36.6 6.0 2000 R George W. Bush 46.1 41.0 -5.1 2004 D John Edwards 11.0 32.6 21.6 2008 D Hillary Clinton 27.8 30.4 2.6 2008 R John McCain 6.1 13.1 7.0 2012 R Mitt Romney 19.5 24.5 5.0 2016 D Hillary Clinton 47.7 49.8 2.1 2016 R Marco Rubio https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-much-will-the-des-moines-registers-endorsement-help-warren-in-iowa/ Not to say this won't boost Warren, I just wouldn't be out there calling this "huge" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 4 hours ago, baconbits said: It's really not that special, polling before actual vote change 1988 D Paul Simon 16.7% 26.7% 10.0 1988 R Bob Dole 43.0 37.4 -5.6 1996 R Bob Dole 34.0 26.3 -7.7 2000 D Bill Bradley 30.6 36.6 6.0 2000 R George W. Bush 46.1 41.0 -5.1 2004 D John Edwards 11.0 32.6 21.6 2008 D Hillary Clinton 27.8 30.4 2.6 2008 R John McCain 6.1 13.1 7.0 2012 R Mitt Romney 19.5 24.5 5.0 2016 D Hillary Clinton 47.7 49.8 2.1 2016 R Marco Rubio https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-much-will-the-des-moines-registers-endorsement-help-warren-in-iowa/ Not to say this won't boost Warren, I just wouldn't be out there calling this "huge" 4 points would be huge to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 The parameters of this year are similar to 2008 with a strong front runner and second but still a mixed field with an endorsement going to one of the lower end of the top, then Edwards now Warren. An endorsement like that could chew into the large undecided vote pool and switch or solidify second choices. Edwards vaulted past two others to finish third and that was enough to make him a serious contender and talked about as much as the surprise winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 Yang qualifies for the New Hampshire debate. Quote Already qualified for the debate are: former Vice President Joe Biden, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, former South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg, Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar and billionaire activist Tom Steyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 It's a rink you doofus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 Just to show how much basketball I watch, I had to reread that 4 times before I realized the problem with it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 If only he grew up in a big basketball state like Indiana 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Mayo Pete's increased efforts to appeal to black voters is going splendidly, thanks for asking. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 I love how ironically white Mayo Pete is. He is every white character that appears in a black sitcom. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Damn 😂 He’s still better policy wise than Biden or Amy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Mayo Pete is so white he pronounces Lil Nas X as “Little Nas Ten”. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokra Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 hour ago, MarSolo said: Mayo Pete is so white he pronounces Lil Nas X as “Little Nas Ten”. Should I admit that I have no idea how to actually say this? 🙈 Too late! <--- is white as fuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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