Guest Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Anathema- said: Even now the context has evaporated and all original meaning has been lost. "Bernie has made no positive relationships in the Senate so I doubt he can get his agenda enacted," has put the words "Bernie has no friends," in her mouth. Already we have to pretend that's what she said and the documentary isn't even out. “Nobody likes him” are the actual words she said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Anathema- said: Or she's allowed to treat Bernie how he treated her? If Bernie can't get the nomination without Clinton being silent then (once again) he doesn't deserve it. A strong campaign wouldn't need her and could overcome her. Bernie isn't owed anything. So what did he say that's comparable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Massdriver said: Maybe I remember it wrong, but wasn't losing with no clear path to victory and he still took it all the way to the convention, basically forcing Clinton to continue the primary rather than getting a chance to focus on Trump? That sounds right, yes. I don't remember timetables. But I do remember his speech unequivocally endorsing and praising her and then they embraced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 13 minutes ago, Anathema- said: That... Was not a real possibility. A decision made by an FBI Director who then turned around and screwed her at the last minute in a very improbable way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, Anathema- said: Or she's allowed to treat Bernie how he treated her? If Bernie can't get the nomination without Clinton being silent then (once again) he doesn't deserve it. A strong campaign wouldn't need her and could overcome her. Bernie isn't owed anything. I'm glad that Hillary's feelings are more important than the good of the country. She clearly doesn't think beating Trump is the #1 priority if she's going around pulling this shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: That sounds right, yes. I don't remember timetables. But I do remember his speech unequivocally endorsing and praising her and then they embraced. I deleted that post after catching up. It seems others are more passionate on this than I am, so I'll take a back seat here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 The real wall is the 2016 democratic primary 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted January 21, 2020 Author Share Posted January 21, 2020 I was banned on Reset for a full month defending Sanders for being dismissive, and for being condescending to people who were condescending (they pick and choose which posts get the mod hammer). @Kal-El814 would never survive as a mod there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 52 minutes ago, Anathema- said: Point of fact if you find yourself jumping into the glee pile to harp on Hillary Clinton with Jason, reevaluate. Honestly, this is not a bad point at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 This is rich coming from a woman who wrote this to Bernie on the eve of the election: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 I just read through the last few pages of this thread. Excuse me, I need to go empty my liquor cabinet... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 1 hour ago, SFLUFAN said: I rest my case, your honor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted January 22, 2020 Author Share Posted January 22, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Now let's move on to more important things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 should have been her answer the first time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 27 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: Now let's move on to more important things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 44 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: Now let's move on to more important things. With the perfect setup, I don't have a single dumb tweet too post. Great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: With the perfect setup, I don't have a single dumb tweet too post. Great! What about the Butti/Jeb! one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baconbits Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Let us not forget this classic 2008 "authentic & unvarnished" view, Quote “We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California,” Clinton told the editorial board of a South Dakota newspaper. ” I don’t understand it,” Clinton added, alluding to the calls for her to quit. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hillary-clinton-rfk-comment/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 1 hour ago, SaysWho? said: tell that to anathema 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted January 22, 2020 Author Share Posted January 22, 2020 “On a good day, my wife likes me, so let’s clear the air on that one,” Sanders told NBC reporter Geoff Bennett when asked about Clinton’s attack. "Why do you think the Secretary is still talking about 2016?" "That's a good question. Ask her." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Bernie on top for the first time in national CNN poll unseating Biden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 34 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: Bernie on top for the first time in national CNN poll unseating Biden. Here: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/01/22/politics/cnn-poll-sanders-biden-january-national/index.html?__twitter_impression=true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Want to see something wild? Bernie is now ahead with minorities: If he wins Iowa, I think he has it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 New national head-to-heads: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Good stuff, but I would love to see more polls backing this up. MorningConsult still has Biden up 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 If it holds it isn't surprising. Poll after poll, The #2 choice of Biden voters is....Bernie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted January 22, 2020 Author Share Posted January 22, 2020 Tulsi Gabbard sues Hillary Clinton for $50M, claims defamation over 'Russian asset' remark Quote Democratic presidential candidate Rep. Tulsi Gabbard filed a defamation lawsuit Wednesday against Hillary Clinton seeking $50 million in damages, claiming the former Democratic presidential nominee "carelessly and recklessly impugned" her reputation when she suggested in October that one of the 2020 Democratic candidates is "the favorite of the Russians." Quote "Although Rep. Gabbard's presidential campaign continues to gain momentum, she has seen her political and personal reputation smeared and her candidacy intentionally damaged by Clinton's malicious and demonstrably false remarks," Brian Dunne, a partner at the laws firm, said in a statement. Dunne added that Clinton had exhibited a "personal hostility" toward Gabbard last fall, and the former secretary of state "resorted to a damaging whisper campaign founded on lies, and when presented with the opportunity to retract her damaging remarks, she refused." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 50 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Want to see something wild? Bernie is now ahead with minorities: If he wins Iowa, I think he has it. Not so wild. I don't recall who said it, speaking of this election, but minority voters can be very pragmatic. Since we'll often feel like our vote gets lost in the noise, the next best bet would be to support whoever is closest to your views and has a decent chance of winning over the white vote. The more it seems like Biden would lose against Trump, the more minority voters he'll wind up losing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 It would be interesting to see the numbers broken out a bit more. I would bet Biden still leads with black voters, and that Bernie is ahead with hispanic/latino voters. That's what earlier polls seemed to indicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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