SaysWho? Posted June 14, 2019 Author Share Posted June 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, TwinIon said: Odd, since I got it from the Times. So that's how WaPo is competing, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Quote The Democratic National Committee and NBC News, the host of the first debates, announced the makeup of the debate stages for the June 26 and June 27 debates through a random selection in New York, where NBC News executives and producers drew names from a set of two boxes to determine the two groups — one dubbed "purple," the other "orange" — before deciding which group would debate first. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/rubycramer/first-democratic-2020-debates-lineup The first night should have been Purple and Orange fighting to the death. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 The gop house rep in charge of recruiting, especially women after getting hammered in 2018 has instead decided to call it quits lol. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/rep-susan-brooks-one-of-13-women-in-house-gop-decides-not-to-seek-reelection/2019/06/14/9e1f1e14-8eaa-11e9-8f69-a2795fca3343_story.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 23 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: The gop house rep in charge of recruiting, especially women after getting hammered in 2018 has instead decided to call it quits lol. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/rep-susan-brooks-one-of-13-women-in-house-gop-decides-not-to-seek-reelection/2019/06/14/9e1f1e14-8eaa-11e9-8f69-a2795fca3343_story.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 She got tired of hiding from the tea party Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: The timing of those polls lines up with when the Sleepy Joe tweets started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Biden as President is literally the barest of wins. We can do better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 I don't care for Biden, but I want Trump out of office far more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 1 hour ago, PaladinSolo said: My brain dun pooped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 The best part is them claiming those are old numbers and his new numbers hes ahead, cause you know, hes done so much to turn it all around, lol. I assume the numbers are equally as bad across the other 13 states done in the poll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 3 hours ago, PaladinSolo said: so florida is really +10 because they always fuck it up for everybody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Just now, Firewithin said: so florida is really +10 because they always fuck it up for everybody Or maybe Florida is just where the GOP is the most blatant about changing election results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, johnny said: forget the Proud Boys.........this just secured the goodest bois vote 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 37 minutes ago, johnny said: True dilemma for 2020. Are you #TeamBailey or #TeamInuk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SilentWorld Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 1 hour ago, SFLUFAN said: Is that your dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 10 minutes ago, SilentWorld said: Is that your dog friend let us introduce you to a wholesome thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PaladinSolo Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Warren's rise shows up in an SC poll, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Will be interesting to see if Warren is hurt or helped by being put in the kids table debate. I think there is a chance that she shines next to(mostly) lower tier candidates. But there's always a chance that one of them could decide they have nothing to lose and dive bomb her like Christie with Rubio-bot. Also a danger that less people might tune in to see her because the other debate will be seen as the main event. The good thing about Warren is that I think she is both so competent and likable with a great message that I think she can cut through all that horse race bullshit if she just goes out there, lays out her plans and is just herself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted June 16, 2019 Author Share Posted June 16, 2019 28 minutes ago, Chairslinger said: Will be interesting to see if Warren is hurt or helped by being put in the kids table debate. I think there is a chance that she shines next to(mostly) lower tier candidates. But there's always a chance that one of them could decide they have nothing to lose and dive bomb her like Christie with Rubio-bot. Also a danger that less people might tune in to see her because the other debate will be seen as the main event. The good thing about Warren is that I think she is both so competent and likable with a great message that I think she can cut through all that horse race bullshit if she just goes out there, lays out her plans and is just herself. Eh, I think kids' table may be overplaying it. The 2016 GOP undercard was kids' table level, but the bold would be the bottom-tier in polling: Night One: June 26 Cory Booker, senator from New Jersey Julián Castro, former housing secretary Bill de Blasio, mayor of New York John Delaney, former representative from Maryland Tulsi Gabbard, representative from Hawaii Jay Inslee, governor of Washington Amy Klobuchar, senator from Minnesota Beto O’Rourke, former representative from Texas Tim Ryan, representative from Ohio Elizabeth Warren, senator from Massachusetts Night Two: June 27Michael Bennet, senator from Colorado Joseph R. Biden Jr., former vice president Pete Buttigieg, mayor of South Bend, Ind. Kirsten Gillibrand, senator from New York Kamala Harris, senator from California John Hickenlooper, former governor of Colorado Bernie Sanders, senator from Vermont Eric Swalwell, representative from California Marianne Williamson, self-help author Andrew Yang, former tech executive It's actually a pretty good split; it just probably could have used Harris or Biden or Buttigieg in exchange for Booker or Klobuchar. But even then, Beto was polling a lot better a couple months ago than, say, Buttigieg, so who knows what it would look like in a couple months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted June 16, 2019 Author Share Posted June 16, 2019 Two pieces of Trump news: 1) Trump cuts ties with pollsters after internal numbers showing him way behind Biden are leaked. 2) Trump to officially launch his campaign Tuesday in Orlando even though you probably couldn't tell based on his nonstop campaign since inauguration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rep-ocasio-cortez-says-biden-still-has-work-to-do-on-changing-his-behavior-toward-women/ar-AACXVtR?ocid=AMZN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 3 hours ago, SaysWho? said: Two pieces of Trump news: 1) Trump cuts ties with pollsters after internal numbers showing him way behind Biden are leaked. 2) Trump to officially launch his campaign Tuesday in Orlando even though you probably couldn't tell based on his nonstop campaign since inauguration. Firing people for old and fake data Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Democratic support for impeachment jumped almost 20 points as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 And this is why technolibertarians UBI 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 @SFLUFAN what do you think of this? Quote Taxing income is an increasingly ineffective and inefficient way to generate revenue over time. Take a company like Amazon—it can do tens of billions in business and pay no income tax in a given period while storing its income overseas. A Value-Added Tax is much more efficient way to capture the true value of the American infrastructure and will be increasingly necessary over time as more and more work is done by software, robots and artificial intelligence. With a VAT of half the European level, we can pay for Universal Basic Income for all American adults of $1,000 per month. https://www.yang2020.com/policies/value-added-tax/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 UBI would work the best with gutting the welfare state and eliminating the minimum wage. If you don't want to work, you wouldn't have to - those that choose to work would be rewarded with additional money via their job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 I'm not opposed to VAT. The problem is not how to pay for UBI, the problem is UBI itself as it is construed by Yang and the libertarian economists who advocate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 I think they should get rid of income tax for people making under a certain amount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Remarkableriots said: I think they should get rid of income tax for people making under a certain amount. An expansion of the Earned Income Tax Credit would also be very beneficial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 I would support a steep VAT paired with a standard monthly dividend payment that covers the cost of the tax up to the poverty level. This makes the VAT progressive without too much bureaucracy and peering into people's financial lives. EDIT: The income tax would have to go away though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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