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Looks like 1080p/60 is the way to go for Xbots:

Pay to win? It's just being true to the real game.

Racing games really benefit from high frame rate -- due to the lower control latency it brings. I recognize it's more important for Motorsports than Horizon -- but still....

Given the GOTY is just a few weeks away, just thought I would create a place to post all things FH4. Edition Comparison -- Note these are different than FH3 Base Game ($59.99) -- FH 4 Formula Drift Car Pack Deluxe Edition ($79.99) --Base + Car Pass Ultimate Edition ($99.99) -- Deluxe + VIP + Expansion 1 + Expansion 2 + Day One Car Pack + Play 4 days early That's right -- the Deluxe edition does not contain VIP this year, but has the car pack instead. HOWEVER, the Ultimate Edition seems to have tremendous value -- all of the content from the FH3 UE -- plus both expansions included! This cost $35 extra on FH3.

2080Ti "general availabiility" has been delayed a week to the 27th. 2080 still coming out on the 20th.

I buy digital because it’s generally cheaper and gets you the best version of the game.

My download didn't come in that slow. It probably took somewhere around 2.5 hours for me to DL the entire demo last night on PC.

Giants -- $800 1) Giants FG 2) 2-3 3) 4 4) Rams highest, Bills lowest 5) Minnesota, NY Jets, New England 6) Brees 7) Hopkins 8) Gurley, Julio Jones

No kidding. Was that what you were thinking of? Or does it get more insane from here?

I am getting 60+ with mostly extreme options at 1440p with a 1070. Some dips into the high 50s.

Fixed.

Do you have a link to what Nvidia is doing? Because I have only seen the generic/marketing bullshit from their launch -- which basically says nothing.

1) Agreed 2) Agreed 3) 15 bar is required to make decent coffee 4) So am I. A snob argues with his barista on how hard she tamps the grounds, or that they want coffee beans from Ethipoia rather than Ecuador. A rational fucking person (like most of the world) recognizes that weak-ass drip coffe sucks -- particularly if it comes pre-ground in a foil bag or in "instant form".

1) Folgers barely counts as coffee 2) Coffee typically doesn't come ground in foil packs 3) If you're drinking "drip" coffee, you're getting a sub-par experience 4) I drink the coffee at work from the "syrup" because it's free. But I recognize that it sucks

How big is this friggin' demo? It told me it was 28GB -- now the "total" is counting up with the "amount downloaded".

1. Super-scaling does not require more knowledge. By definition, you have the knowledge already with super-scaling How does this help? I don't believe this is how neural networks work. My understanding is that neural networks "learn" by testing algorithms (generally at random), evaluating the results, and reinforcing those algorithms that provide better results. By providing more data (rather than less), the algorithms get better and more efficient. Unless of course, there needed to be different algorithms for different games -- because there was some fundamental difference in what worked in different games. I would guess that DLSS uses a method of machine learning to intelligently use super-sampling on a small % of the pixels -- i.e. the neural network learns where super-sampling provides an IQ benefit, and does super-sampling there, and avoids supersampling on image elements where it doesn't believe it will provide benefit. While it is certainly possible that it is too computationally difficult to have a "generic algorithm" -- my initial supposition was that games had to "turn-on" DLSS in order for them to be benchmarked.

It is. Apparently the "get" button doesn't work on the website to get the Xbox One version. Once I loaded up the store, pressed the "get" button, it started to DL on my PC, and told me it would push it to the Xbox as well.

I am not asking about whether super-scaling or anti-aliasing is better. I am wondering why super-scaling needs to tailored on a game-specific level?

Yes. Infinity is bigger than almost infinity. I still don't understand why scaling an image would materially differ from game to game. On a 3D rendered image, I don't understand what about a specific engine/game would make the "guessing" any different on a sub-pixel basis. I'm not challenging you -- just trying to understand your POV to increase my own knowledge.

The base game, yes. I'm assuming you would have to pay for VIP, the car packs and expansions.

What makes that function simpler if it's game specific? Any game can still make a near-infinite number of individual frames -- so the function is still using "rules". Why would the "rules" on BFV be any different than CoD?

I keep forgetting.

But you get Ice Climber included in that price!

You're only getting 60FPS?

I drink a Café Americano every morning. And usually two of the crap that comes out of the machine each morning. Double no-calorie sweetner and cream for each. I won't touch caffeine after noon though...