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  1. Shapiro and Kelly the leading candidates for VP:

     

     

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    While the vetting process is just getting started, a senior administration official told ABC News' Martha Raddatz that Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro and Arizona Sen. Mark Kelly are the leading candidates to be Harris' running mate.

     

    The two men come from key 2024 battleground states, and have experience trouncing Trump-endorsed candidates.

     

    Shapiro, 51, was Pennsylvania's attorney general before being elected governor in 2022 after defeating Republican Doug Mastriano.

     

    Kelly, a 60-year-old former astronaut and Navy captain who is married to former congresswoman Gabby Giffords, won his Senate seat in 2022. He defeated Republican challenger Blake Masters.

     

     

    What are people's thoughts on which is better? I think Shapiro is better for delivering PA, but Kelly wouldn't drive away people who are critical of Israel/Gaza. Plus everyone loves Astronauts. 

     

    EDIT - Also fitting as leaks out of the Trump campaign indicate they are most scared of these two.

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  2. 8 minutes ago, finaljedi said:

    Harris' campaign twitter has posted a couple videos of Beshear today, wonder if he's top of the shortlist.

     

    Leaks are saying he is not on the short list. It's Shapiro, Kelly, Cooper, Whitmer, and Pritzker. Someone close to Beshear says he has not been contacted for vetting. Honestly I'm good with that. Shapiro or Kelly are the smart picks.

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  3. 8 minutes ago, finaljedi said:

    With the amount of flailing right wingers responding to this I'm guessing there was a pretty broad media strategy that went up in flames yesterday.  Also pour one out for the Russian troll farms, the memes with Hunter Biden in his tighty whiteys are no longer relevant.

     

    WWW.THEATLANTIC.COM

    A campaign that had been optimized to beat Joe Biden must now be reinvented.

     

     

    Yep!

     

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  4. 3 minutes ago, Fizzzzle said:

     

     

    Now, Ironically, I'm in the camp that he shouldn't have dropped out this late in the game.

     

    I think (and bear with me, Americans) that this will benefit Harris. America having a 2+ year Presidential race makes it very hard for any candidate to have good standing in the public opinion because of how much time the opposite party has to hammer them. With shorter races like in other western democracies, the public has to basically just focus on the most important issues/things, and are less jaded by dumb little things that are flavour of the week for a year.

     

    I think this will actually benefit Harris.

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  5. 1 minute ago, SuperSpreader said:

     

    I definitely think this is better than an open convention and have given to Kamala through her career before national politics. I 100% support her and actually like her. But I think Americans, Democrats, and Liberals have betrayed Joe Biden. He's given us so many norms we take for granted, kids don't even remember when gay marriage was illegal. Don't ask don't tell, etc. I think it's shameful and I feel deeply sorry for him.

     

    I think it's horrible (and feel for him) while at the same time feel that it was the correct move. And I hope that as someone who cares about the US, Biden is able to take time and realize that his own ego (and even legacy) matters less than the preservation of freedoms and democracy. However, I actually do think that by withdrawing and endorsing Harris that history will look much, much more kindly on him than if he'd run and lost. If Harris wins, it's quite possible that Biden's decision not to run will be viewed very respectfully. It's not often that people willingly give up power, or the opportunity for more of it.

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